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Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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Ha! I met Scotty (the man featured in this video) in Bali, Indonesia about 1.5 years ago. We wound up crossing paths a few more times at a hackerspace after I moved to SF. As you can imagine, he's an incredibly focused but personable guy. Hope to see more videos like this!

I think a lot of us met him there :)

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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As a Shenzhen local, I'd consider this video one of very few that present a 100% accurate view of the local hardware and market culture. It's very well done and everything he says is correct and that's unusual.

That's great to hear that it's accurate!

As an American, what differences do you see in the electronics community now that you're an expat in China?

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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post #40

Makes me wish you could buy a kit and assemble your own phone. We need someone like Arduino to come along for this kind of tech. Would be awesome to just pick up my old and faithful Hakko and solder some sensor to a phone.

Depending on what you're thinking of when you say "phone", you can do that. 3G modem, controller (either a microcontroller like Arduino or one of the smaller Linux-based ARM computers), various LCD options, and either touch or buttons for input. People have built variations on that. Here's an example using a Raspberry Pi, touchscreen, and custom-written UI: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/tytelli-a-diy-smartphone/

Do wonder how it would look if we replaced the B with that new Zero W.

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on what you're thinking of when you say "phone", you can do that. 3G modem, controller (either a microcontroller like Arduino or one of the smaller Linux-based ARM computers), various LCD options, and either touch or buttons for input. People have built variations on that. Here's an example using a Raspberry Pi, touchscreen, and custom-written UI: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/tytelli-a-diy-smartphone/

Do wonder how it would look if we replaced the B with that new Zero W.

Put a smaller GPIO connection on the screen, and you could probably make it 1/3 the thickness of the original one. Still much more powerful than my first Android phone, and you could set it up with much quicker software. Actually getting to feature parity even with most feature phones would take some serious work, though.

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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post #92

As a Shenzhen local, I'd consider this video one of very few that present a 100% accurate view of the local hardware and market culture. It's very well done and everything he says is correct and that's unusual.

That's great to hear that it's accurate! As an American, what differences do you see in the electronics community now that you're an expat in China?

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Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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I've tried to fix the screen on an iPad and an iPhone. In both cases, I destroyed a ribbon cable connector and rendered the devices useless. I tried to follow the instructions, I tried to use proper tools and go as slowly as possible, and in both cases, the delicate surface mount connectors just turned into powder and flaked right off the board.

Just FYI, even if you ripped a pin on the FPC (the connector on the logic board), your devices are still repairable. Board-level repair is becoming more common these days, and there are plenty of people all over the world who can replace FPCs on your board.

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

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All those people and all that parts infrastructure, just to repair and recycle one brand of phones. Phone repair training school with posters of iPhone boards on the wall. All those shops selling phone parts. All that specialized equipment for servicing them. I like the "bubble removing" machine, a heated vacuum chamber. It looks like mid 20th century automotive, when there were corners with four gas stations that actually could fix cars, and many automotive machine shops.

Why should phones break? It's not like they can't be made much tougher.[1] The real question is, why do people put up with such fragile phones? Is this an interim stage of the technology? Does this stop when iPhone N+1 comes out and the reaction is "yawn?"

So what does all that Shentzen parts retail look like when you're building something new? Can you go into those buildings with a bill of materials and come out ready to load your pick and place machine? Can you get boards fabbed one-off while you wait? Or is it all about repair and simple mods?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVPku-xItv8

Re: How I Made My Own iPhone in China [video]

#100
post #92

As a Shenzhen local, I'd consider this video one of very few that present a 100% accurate view of the local hardware and market culture. It's very well done and everything he says is correct and that's unusual.

That's great to hear that it's accurate! As an American, what differences do you see in the electronics community now that you're an expat in China?

I think one of the huge differences in east vs west electronics/maker/hacker communities is the approach of DIY vs using production services. In the US, as a hobbyist with a limited budget, if you want to have a PCB made, you either send it off to OSH Park and wait weeks, or you try and make it yourself and get pretty low quality results. Here in Shenzhen, nobody even considers it. You upload the file to professional board house, and standard turn around is 3-4 days. For $30 more, you can get 24-hour turnaround.

So there's just this really different approach of "what can I make myself with the tools I own" versus "what professional services do I have access to, and which of my friends have factories with the right production equipment".

As a result, you see stark difference in quality of initial prototypes.

The flip side is that I think western makers/hackers are more focused on coming up with completely new ideas, with less of a focus on quality of execution, whereas a lot of chinese makers/hackers/manufacturers are more focused on iterative improvement - how can I be really clever to make something cheaper or easier to produce, that looks like a professional product. Both sides are very clever and creative, but focus on different aspects.

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