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Re: Remove United from your flight results

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Post by [deleted] »

btgeekboy wrote: post #95
fixxer wrote: post #74

If I removed every airline that sucked from my flight results, I'd be driving to Paris. I hope this reaction keeps going because I'm gonna load up on United stock. In 6 months, all these noise makers will be gone and we'll all realize United is equivalent in shittiness to AA, Delta, etc etc.

It's already too late to buy the stock on sale. From 5 days ago, UAL is down only 0.19%. With DAL -.07%, LUV +4.04%, and ALK -1.54%, it's hard to argue that one-off situations like this event, or Delta's multiple days of cancellations, have much of an effect on investors. https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&...

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Re: Remove United from your flight results

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Post by braveo »

Buttons840 wrote: post #77
donald123 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that's "involuntary compensation" regulated by DOT. And those are usually handled before you board on the plane. So technically if you walk down the plane yourself, they can call it "voluntarily".

What? What do you mean by "walk down the plane"?

It's involuntary if they don't let you on the place, but if you willingly walk off the plane it's voluntary.

If what the person is saying is true, then technically speaking, the only one who could demand cash would be the doctor.

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#103

Post by johnfn »

rm999 wrote: post #69

The comments in here are oddly fatalist about the whole thing. We put a lot of trust in airlines; and not just in safety or to get us somewhere, but we also give them an unusual number of legal protections once we're in their care. When the drama first started I kind of wrote it off: "this must have been a misunderstanding compounded by a single employee's stupidity". But when I found that it was not only condoned, b…

> Then, the inevitable outrage led to past stories resurfacing, with a pattern of absurd insensitivity (abused dogs, broken guitars, sexist clothing policies, etc).

You don't think you'd be able to dredge up similarly bad stories for any other airline?

Look, what United did on that flight was pretty awful. But the rest of this to me smacks of the typical rumor mill that spins up when a company has bad PR, which surfaces the typical sort of 2-deviations-below-the-bell-curve scenarios you'll occasionally have when you're a company at United's scale - a scale that employs tens of thousands of people that do not actually all act as one giant United hive mind as much as we'd like them to but rather each as autonomous people that can occasionally do wrong things in a way that has no bearing on the company at large.

(That was a pretty long sentence.)

For what it's worth, I know an employee of United who loves it. But what was that saying about the plural of anecdote again..?

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#104

Post by Hello71 »

mc32 wrote: post #66
ceautery wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> He's looking for a payout. [Citation needed] Edit: OK, then.

I don't think one is wont to hire these types[1] if one is not looking for a payout: "The 69-year-old medical professional has hired corporate law specialist Stephen Golan and personal injury specialist Thomas Demetrio". [1] http://perezhilton.com/2017-04-12-united-airlines-david-dao-...

> perezhilton.com

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#105

Post by braveo »

abecedarius wrote: post #21
sitepodmatt wrote: post #10

United screwed up by not having a decent incentive system in place to avoid deplaning people. People have presented many options, including taking a ballpark figure on checkin, or whilst on the airplance a speaker announcement anyone to travel later for $800, wait a minute, $1000, $1200, okay great thanks folks.. That was extremely badly handled and shocking that no process was in place for this - as last minute crew…

It was United who called in the cops. I'm not saying they weren't contractually able to, but they had to choose to do it.

This is the point that seems to get missed a lot.

yes, the police did the brutalizing, but all of the decisions that lead to that confrontation were UA's.

It's akin to arguing we shouldn't lock up people who pay for assassins, only the assassins themselves.

And I'm not trying to compare an assassination to what UA did, only point out that the law doesn't give you a pass because you weren't the one who physically did the act.

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#106

Post by pookeh »

diminoten wrote: post #78
terrestrial wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A law would not "fix" this. It's a workaround. Which law was this guy breaking to begin with? The problem is lack of scrutiny by the officers handling this. The process should have gone something like this: United: "Hey, we have this guy refusing the leave the airplane. Can you help us remove him?" Chicago PD: "Why won't he leave the airplane?" United: "He says he needs to catch this flight for something work-related…

What actually happened: United: "This man is trespassing on private property." Chicago PD: "We'll be right over." United breaking their agreement isn't illegal, but remaining on private property after you've been asked to leave by the people in charge is illegal.

Bad example because in this case United and passenger entered an agreement for the passenger to be on United's property.

That's like saying you leased your house to a tenant for a year but then six months in you find another tenant that you want so you call the cops on the first tenant. Doesn't work like that (well at least where I live).

A contract is a contract and nobody is tresassing here.

Re: Remove United from your flight results

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Post by jedharris »

johnfn wrote: post #103
rm999 wrote: post #69

The comments in here are oddly fatalist about the whole thing. We put a lot of trust in airlines; and not just in safety or to get us somewhere, but we also give them an unusual number of legal protections once we're in their care. When the drama first started I kind of wrote it off: "this must have been a misunderstanding compounded by a single employee's stupidity". But when I found that it was not only condoned, b…

> Then, the inevitable outrage led to past stories resurfacing, with a pattern of absurd insensitivity (abused dogs, broken guitars, sexist clothing policies, etc). You don't think you'd be able to dredge up similarly bad stories for any other airline? Look, what United did on that flight was pretty awful. But the rest of this to me smacks of the typical rumor mill that spins up when a company has bad PR, which surfa…

Sure, we should collect some data.

That said, I and my family decided over a year ago never to fly United again, based on multiple bad experiences. Independent of this incident, I'm sure we made a good decision.

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#108

Post by madiathomas »

I need this kind of extension for companies I don't want to do business with. Also need it for news sites with Adblock blockers. I don't want to see news sites like forbes when searching for news. Is there a plug-in that removes certain sites from my google search results?

Re: Remove United from your flight results

#109

Post by jsemrau »

sfilargi wrote: post #3

I understand the sentiment, but if I would stop using every corp that fucked somebody up, I would probably have to move somewhere where there is no civilization.

That's the problem. The airline industry in the US is a oligopoly in dire need for a regulatory intervention.

Same sentiment in this op-ed piece on Medium. https://medium.com/@thisTenqyuLife/united-airlines-should-go...

Re: Remove United from your flight results

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Post by braveo »

zzrg wrote: post #15
sitepodmatt wrote: post #10

United screwed up by not having a decent incentive system in place to avoid deplaning people. People have presented many options, including taking a ballpark figure on checkin, or whilst on the airplance a speaker announcement anyone to travel later for $800, wait a minute, $1000, $1200, okay great thanks folks.. That was extremely badly handled and shocking that no process was in place for this - as last minute crew…

It's not clear to me that the police even did anything wrong in this case either. The passenger was going absolutely apeshit and it looked like he bashed his own head into the adjacent seatrest. I'm certainly no fanboy of United, but in this case it doesn't seem like they, or the airport police, did anything particularly wrong. [edit] I suppose I should expect the downvotes to continue flowing for this comment. If yo…

This is something I've seen several people not seem to understand.

A large part of why people are upset about it isn't just the physical brutality, it's the act of FORCIBLY removing someone from a plane after they've:

1. paid 2. boarded 3. spent all the time going through customs, etc.

The fact that he got brutalized, even if it was not purposeful, is secondary. If you read through this very thread you'll see most of the commentary isn't centered around his injuries, but around UA's decision to forcibly remove him after boarding.

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