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tomp wrote: post #412
redm wrote: post #378

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"Malware, short for malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer or mobile operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising. Before the term malware was coined by Yisrael Radai in 1990, malicious software was referred to as computer viruses." [1] [2] I don't think most people would consider Google's purposeful display ads, which site ow…

> gather sensitive information It's right there in the definition, literally .

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Re: We’re dropping Google Ads

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tomp wrote: post #412
redm wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Malware, short for malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer or mobile operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising. Before the term malware was coined by Yisrael Radai in 1990, malicious software was referred to as computer viruses." [1] [2] I don't think most people would consider Google's purposeful display ads, which site ow…

> gather sensitive information It's right there in the definition, literally .

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Re: We’re dropping Google Ads

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Post by fastball »

tomp wrote: post #412
redm wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Malware, short for malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer or mobile operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising. Before the term malware was coined by Yisrael Radai in 1990, malicious software was referred to as computer viruses." [1] [2] I don't think most people would consider Google's purposeful display ads, which site ow…

> gather sensitive information It's right there in the definition, literally .

Depends on your definition of "sensitive".

I don't qualify any of the info that trackers get about me as "sensitive".

Re: We’re dropping Google Ads

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Post by MichaelGG »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #388
stonemetal wrote: post #48

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If they are going to spend a million man hours of effort playing wack a mole with content creators, why haven't they spent a tenth of that effort keeping the ads they get paid to run safe and clean? Easy. Poor search results reflects poorly on them, when they put a dodgy ad on a site they get paid, and the site gets blamed.

I think perhaps you're underestimating the amount of effort that they do put into keeping their ads clean. A few highlights from [their 2016 report][1]: > we disabled more than 5 million payday loan ads > In 2016, our systems detected and disabled a total of 112 million ads for “trick to click,” 6X more than in 2015. > We disabled more than 68 million bad ads for healthcare violations, up from 12.5 million in 2015. >…

On mobile, the ads I see are almost exclusively fake virus warnings, "clean your phone" and other crap like that. Complete with flashing yellow and red images.

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Post by fastball »

bananarepdev wrote: post #385
redm wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Malware, short for malicious software, is any software used to disrupt computer or mobile operations, gather sensitive information, gain access to private computer systems, or display unwanted advertising. Before the term malware was coined by Yisrael Radai in 1990, malicious software was referred to as computer viruses." [1] [2] I don't think most people would consider Google's purposeful display ads, which site ow…

I think they are talking about the tracking capabilities of these ads, which are unexpected by the user and compromise their privacy. Thus, they behave as malware.

Shouldn't be unexpected if you agreed to the ToS/EULA.

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Post by nurettin »

Months ago I was excited to get google ads into my app and monetize a project on google play for the first time ever.

After a few dozen bucks, the ads turned into virus scams, +18 hotlines, which I am pretty sure I unchecked the last time I logged into admob's web interface, so I removed it. Good riddance.

Now thanks to google (ironically) I sell in-app purchases to enable features.

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Post by joshuamorton »

protomyth wrote: post #358
Mz wrote: post #13

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You can also just do a tip jar model or patreon. So far, for me, the tip jar has been more successful than ads or Patreon (though I am new to Patreon, so, time will tell). I would be happy to get rid of ads altogether (with the exception of one site, for REASONS) if I thought that would drive up tips. But I have experimented a bit and it didn't seem to drive up tips. Then, whenever I read these discussions, there is…

Patreon has a rather large problem for poorer people. Patreon's insistance on taking the money on the 1st of the month is a pain because that is rent day for most people. A service that allowed a person to select a day (e.g. 12th) or better yet pick a day the way a lot of people get paid (day after third Thursday of the month) would be preferred. [edit] To give a concrete example. Suppose someone on Social Security w…

To be completely honest, if this is an issue, that person probably shouldn't be using patreon at all.

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Post by nebabyte »

matt4077 wrote: post #193
nebabyte wrote: post #96

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> Society has many unwritten agreements Well that's convenient. Next time someone does something I don't like, I'll be sure to tell them about the unwritten agreement they're violating.

Sure, it's called "manners", or "social behaviour". Of course, as time goes on, many informal social rules have been made into law, because someone always figures he can live with the disapproving looks. As just one example: If you've agreed to meet with a friend and they don't show, without notice, you'll probably inform them that they are in violation of your unwritten agreement. (I'm not actually in favour of this…

Those aren't unwritten.

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Post by NLips »

coldpie wrote: post #443
NLips wrote: post #432

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It's completely true. If I finish my meal and don't have a credit card, the restaurant will be annoyed. I offer them cash, and they refuse the payment. I therefore leave without paying. The restaurant takes me to court for non-payment and I agree to pay. I pay in cash. From the link in your sibling comment: "This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for…

Being a legal offer of payment is different from being mandated to accept that payment. You may be right, but I would find it surprising.

The normal interpretation is that the party you're paying doesn't have to accept, but has no legal standing to say "You owe me and didn't pay".

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Post by jrullman »

icantdrive55 wrote: post #258
Ironchefpython wrote: post #146

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> the problem turns out to be, people don't want to pay, not even that tiny amount. No, the problem is it didn't work with adblockers. I really want to pay for the content I read, I just am not willing to risk being outbid on the chance to view a page without spam by someone trying to deliver malware. My current solution is to buy pre-paid visa cards to pay for online news subscriptions, which is a huge pain, but nec…

"My current solution is to buy pre-paid visa cards to pay for online news subscriptions, which is a huge pain, but necessary after finding out that newspapers will continue to charge even expired or cancelled credit cards. Even after I explicitly cancelled a credit card to try to stop recurring billing, the credit card company will helpfully keep accepting those charges." 1. I haven't resorted to pre-paid Vias cards,…

Checkout Privacy.com, I use it for exactly these kind of scenarios. You can generate card numbers that are locked to a single merchant, and you can set transaction limits and delete the card whenever you want. Or you can set it as a "burner" which will only work for a single transaction.
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