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Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by protomyth »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #26
swah wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime fans and VSC fans are almost disjoint sets...

Using both is very good. Sublime has some text transformation features that VSC doesn't have (I use a ton of regex replace and multi-cursor typing -- VSC has these but there are some menu items in ST that are not in VSC), VSC has a debugger, source control out of the box, and can use symbol servers. VSC is very much prepared for cross-platform .NET Core development. ST3 is more generally prepared for a lot of other l…

Sublime does keyboard macros that make my life easier which VSC and its add-on don't have. Now if Sublime had a option to delete trailing whitespace every time I hit return, I could return to my PFE days of macro productivity.

When I start doing coding and text manipulation again, it looks like it will be Sublime I purchase.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by [deleted] »

jasonlfunk wrote: post #25
adrianN wrote: post #9

I'm somewhat bummed that Limetext [1] seems to be dead. I like Sublime, but I don't want to rely on nonfree software for my work. I switched to vim for now. [1] http://limetext.org/

I'm curious why you don't want to rely on non-free software for your work. Usually paying for something helps it not to die, like limetext, for example. For my work, I'd rather pay for something I rely on to increase the likelihood of it staying alive and keeping up with the work I need to do.

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Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by scbrg »

nkkollaw wrote: post #37
jasonlfunk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why you don't want to rely on non-free software for your work. Usually paying for something helps it not to die, like limetext, for example. For my work, I'd rather pay for something I rely on to increase the likelihood of it staying alive and keeping up with the work I need to do.

Exactly. It's amazing how people still don't want to pay for software.

It's not that we don't want to pay for software, and I don't think that's what OP meant when he used the word "nonfree". It's just that we need the four freedoms in case the software takes a sudden turn in a direction we don't like.

Now you're going to ask: How is it possible to support the four freedoms and still charge for the software?

And my answer is: I have no idea, and I don't care. It's not my job to come up with a business model for you, I'm just stating my requirements.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by castis »

protomyth wrote: post #51
FLUX-YOU wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using both is very good. Sublime has some text transformation features that VSC doesn't have (I use a ton of regex replace and multi-cursor typing -- VSC has these but there are some menu items in ST that are not in VSC), VSC has a debugger, source control out of the box, and can use symbol servers. VSC is very much prepared for cross-platform .NET Core development. ST3 is more generally prepared for a lot of other l…

Sublime does keyboard macros that make my life easier which VSC and its add-on don't have. Now if Sublime had a option to delete trailing whitespace every time I hit return, I could return to my PFE days of macro productivity. When I start doing coding and text manipulation again, it looks like it will be Sublime I purchase.

I use the editorconfig plugin at work. You have an .editorconfig file at the base of your projects and everyones text editor gets the same settings on a per-project basis.

One of the default settings is to trim excess whitespaces.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by jrimbault »

captainmuon wrote: post #48
Philipp__ wrote: post #28

If Sublime only had definite release! It's wonderful GUI editor! I stopped using it years ago when I switched to Vim and Emacs, but if it gets released I will buy it for sure, at least to have it on my work machine. I like editing text in it, everything is so smooth and well looking, and it doesn't feel bloated. And I just hate all those Electron based editors, no matter how much incrementally they get better from mo…

Release or not release is just a name. You shouldn't let that be a factor. In my experience it is absolutely stable and as bug free as software can be. However, I'm not sure how well maintained it is. I fear all the time that the author, jps, has quit, but then every few months he has a development sprint and releases a new version. I'd rather have it permanently called "beta" but a minor update every month, than one…

Didn't they hire wbond "recently" (like a year ago) ?

wbond is the author of Package Control for ST and I think he lurks here sometime.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by jrimbault »

protomyth wrote: post #51
FLUX-YOU wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using both is very good. Sublime has some text transformation features that VSC doesn't have (I use a ton of regex replace and multi-cursor typing -- VSC has these but there are some menu items in ST that are not in VSC), VSC has a debugger, source control out of the box, and can use symbol servers. VSC is very much prepared for cross-platform .NET Core development. ST3 is more generally prepared for a lot of other l…

Sublime does keyboard macros that make my life easier which VSC and its add-on don't have. Now if Sublime had a option to delete trailing whitespace every time I hit return, I could return to my PFE days of macro productivity. When I start doing coding and text manipulation again, it looks like it will be Sublime I purchase.

Sublime has the settings: `trim_trailing_white_space_on_save` and `ensure_newline_at_eof_on_save`, I found these very satisfactory.

But there's almost certainly a ST extension for your particular taste.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by geodel »

etatoby wrote: post #41
coldtea wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd be surprised. I'm tempted to go to the VSC side from time to time because of the more polish -- it's the speed that brings me back.

You'd t think with their big team and resources, they would have been able to use a more performant cross platform toolkit, say Qt or maybe some of their .Net stuff. Why did they choose to base their editor on Electron, of all things, especially considering the existing results of Atom (horrible) is beyond me.

It is an example that all the gazillion dollars and huge number of s/w engineers will not automatically do the right thing just because it is right. Most likely they will hop on the bandwagon, add cool words to their quickly concocted webapp masquerading as powerful editor.

In addition 1M+ plugins, open-source, cross-platform etc will keep cool kids not just happy but they will also aggressively challenge whoever is using old but efficient software products.

Re: Sublime Text 3 dev build 3128 released

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Post by sundvor »

coldtea wrote: post #16
swah wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime fans and VSC fans are almost disjoint sets...

You'd be surprised. I'm tempted to go to the VSC side from time to time because of the more polish -- it's the speed that brings me back.

I'm between VS17 with Resharper and Ncrunch, VSC, and Sublime Text myself. (VS17 for all my .net stuff, which picked up about 16 months ago). Even with a 4.2ghz 6 core CPU/32/NVME, the formers are slow compared to ST. Sublime is just so instantaneous it never gets old.

Yet VSC is like a polished machine with so much weight behind, it's almost a wonder ST3 can stand up to it. That's why I'd like the 3.0 release to be official.

(Fwiw I used Textpad for over 15 years before finding ST. Compared to Eclipse etc that was another speed demon).

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