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Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Banthum wrote: post #6
borp_borp wrote: post #2

Kind of shitty that they immediately used the computers to fuck people over... The Ohio Inspector General says investigators found an inmate used the computers to steal the identity of another inmate, and then submit credit card applications, and commit tax fraud. One inmate, Adam Johnston, reportedly admitted to applying for the credit cards, saying he just looked through the ODRC system for a young inmate with a lo…

People end up in prison for a reason. Though how I wish it wasn't so.

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Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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cooper12 wrote: post #9
Banthum wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People end up in prison for a reason. Though how I wish it wasn't so.

People have gone to the prison in the past solely because of the color of their skin or because of their religion. People today go to prison just for possessing a plant or criticizing their head of state. Let's not pretend that being in prison is anything other than a moral judgement rather than an indication of someone's character. It just makes it easier to dehumanize prisoners ("they deserve it") and harder for th…

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Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by kchoudhu »

walrus01 wrote: post #4

Here's hoping they didn't smuggle a full size ATX motherboard through the facility using the 'old fashioned' prison method. Or even a 3.5" SATA hard drive...

South Park s04e02 "Cartman's Silly Hate Crime 2000".

You're welcome :)

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by codezero »

borp_borp wrote: post #2

Kind of shitty that they immediately used the computers to fuck people over... The Ohio Inspector General says investigators found an inmate used the computers to steal the identity of another inmate, and then submit credit card applications, and commit tax fraud. One inmate, Adam Johnston, reportedly admitted to applying for the credit cards, saying he just looked through the ODRC system for a young inmate with a lo…

Or this is just the spin the prison puts on it to make it sound worse, and to justify their own incompetence. Imagine if this didn't happen at all, and the inmates used this just to get online. This is what I assume.

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by djsumdog »

codezero wrote: post #24
Overtonwindow wrote: post #3

I'm not sure whether or be alarmed or proud.

Proud. The US prison system is oppressive garbage. Good for the inmates.

Exactly. Especially in Ohio. I remember years ago listening to the District Attorney of Cincinnati say he didn't believe in rehabilitation! WTF?

1% of Americans have been through the incarceration system. That's insane.

These guys are probably just going to be reprimanded and be given more time in prison, when really they should encourage their education and effort to push them to legit computer work when they leave.

..but once you have that criminal record, and are labelled as such, good luck getting anyone to hire you. The prison system in the US creates a lower class. Facilities where prisoners can earn below minimum wage is literally slave labour.

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by djsumdog »

codezero wrote: post #25
borp_borp wrote: post #2

Kind of shitty that they immediately used the computers to fuck people over... The Ohio Inspector General says investigators found an inmate used the computers to steal the identity of another inmate, and then submit credit card applications, and commit tax fraud. One inmate, Adam Johnston, reportedly admitted to applying for the credit cards, saying he just looked through the ODRC system for a young inmate with a lo…

Or this is just the spin the prison puts on it to make it sound worse, and to justify their own incompetence. Imagine if this didn't happen at all, and the inmates used this just to get online. This is what I assume.

I wouldn't put it past the prison either.

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by djsumdog »

Banthum wrote: post #6
borp_borp wrote: post #2

Kind of shitty that they immediately used the computers to fuck people over... The Ohio Inspector General says investigators found an inmate used the computers to steal the identity of another inmate, and then submit credit card applications, and commit tax fraud. One inmate, Adam Johnston, reportedly admitted to applying for the credit cards, saying he just looked through the ODRC system for a young inmate with a lo…

People end up in prison for a reason. Though how I wish it wasn't so.

Yes, they do. Sometimes it's cause cops make up a crime. Sometimes it's because they had a little bit of weed on them at a traffic stop. Sometimes it's because they commit a real crime that actually harms someone.

Many times it's because one of the things above happened, they got out, wanted to go straight, and no one would hire them for anything because they had a criminal record. They tried to live straight, get some job training, but were low on money, could barely feed themselves with foodstamps and ended up stealing and back in prison. Or maybe it as something stupid like being caught begging with an open container not in a little brown bag.

America has 1% of its population in the system (either incarcerate or on parole at some point in their lives). That's insane.

Yea they end up there for a reason, but it's not the reason you think.

The people who should be in jail (most congressmen and women, most senators, all the CEOs that ran banks during the 2008 financial collapse) aren't because they have power and money, which buys them a different level of justice than you or I.

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by lacampbell »

sspiff wrote: post #20

So they were able to connect to the prison network, look through the state prison database using these computers and issue security passes to gain access to restricted areas. I think the prison needs to get someone to look at the security of their network and applications.

If Shawshank redemption has taught us anything, the network administrator is probably a soft-spoken aspiring prisoner hired by the corrupt yet outwardly morally upright prison warden to illegally pocket more money.

Re: Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling

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Post by kazagistar »

2arrs2ells wrote: post #19
jorblumesea wrote: post #16

That's crazy, how was security so lax that a physical connection was enough to access state systems? Surely you'd require some kind of staff login.

> When they checked the login being used, they discovered an employee's credentials were being used on days he wasn't scheduled to work.

That's what happens when you don't have layered security. MAC address whitelisting, crytographic hardware tokens, 2fa, etc all would have stopped it dead in its tracks, but someone decided a login screen would be "enough".
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