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The unemployed will not be considered

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Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#51

I'm surprised that you can even compel someone to produce this information in an interview setting, considering some other things that are not legal to ask ("how much do you weigh, how tall are you . . .").

You're surprised that you can ask for someone's work history in an interview setting?

Current employment status, not work history.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#52
post #42

We value honesty and telling the truth. And when people do, we express outrage. Unemployed people also have limited resources and cannot apply for every job. Isn't it better to know you won't be considered instead of wasting your time trying to get through invisible filters? Employers employ all sorts of arbitrary mechanisms to narrow their choices. And so do you, most likely, when you make your economic decisions.

We value honesty and telling the truth because deception and lying are commonly considered to be bad things. When people honestly tell us the truth that they will not entertain applications for employment from those currently unemployed, we express outrage because that is just {dickish,unconscionable,idiotic}. If it makes you feel better, I give them full credit for being honest about their moral bankruptcy.

When someone is offering a service and everybody wants it, its not unreasonable to conclude that it might be worth more to you than a service that has no line of people waiting to pay for it.

Frankly, I don't see how that's immoral. Its acting in what one thinks is in one's own best interest. There is nothing wrong with that. The job seekers do it all the time whenever they decide to pursue a job at a more stable company rather than one that's been through hard times.

You may not want to present your criteria for hiring openly because you don't want to hurt people's feelings. That's your prerogative.

Just make sure you're consistent about that and avoid giving people feedback that might hurt their feelings while they're employed and when you finally have to let them go.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're surprised that you can ask for someone's work history in an interview setting?

Current employment status, not work history.

"Current employment status, not work history."

This wouldn't be fair to the employer or the employee. How would you really be able to get a grasp of a potential employee's experience/fit for a position if you can't look at their previous jobs (and years of experience)?

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#54
post #38

If you needed further evidence, this suggests that there are ridiculous inefficiencies in matching up labor and jobs that you could make money solving. (In this case, caused by the dating site conundrum: there are more men then women, causing men to send out lots of messages without much thought, causing women to be very choosy in responding to messages, causing frustrated men to send more messages, causing women to…

> Though "must already be in a relationship" would not be a very mainstream criteria for dating sites.

This seems to be a very popular idea in some circles, actually.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're surprised that you can ask for someone's work history in an interview setting?

Current employment status, not work history.

One's currently employment status is part of one's work history.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#56
post #49

Still waiting for a response to the 300 resumés you sent out last month? Sending out 300 resumés in a month is the wrong strategy, as it shows you don't care about the posting. If you are willing to invest that little effort, you are basically playing a lottery against all the other people doing the same thing. You are far better off being selective and persistant. If instead of sending out 75 resumes a week, you spe…

This is probably true. But then again, if you know that most of your resumes are thrown out at random, you know you need to send out a large population of them in order to have a just few of them end up being read.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#57
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, but it sounds lazy. How hard is it to check the work chronology and just bong any resume that doesn't look like it would be anywhere near a good fit? It's not like H/R people are overworked filling hundreds of positions in their companies at the moment.

This is actually an indication of economic recovery. The H.R. folks that I know are MASSIVELY overworked right now. As their companies begin to start a new hiring cycle they are being just blasted with candidates. I was talking to an accounting recruiter the other day. They're finally starting to have a decent flow of jobs in the pipeline, but he's being killed by the number of applicants... many of which merely had…

Perhaps that unemployed are all just trying to create more HR positions in the company so they can apply to those, too!

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

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Yes, HuffPo is leftist, but I don't see how rage over this particular issue has jack-all to do with where you lie on the partisan spectrum. I'd expect even many full-bore libertarians to find that policy stupid, discriminatory or both (though they would more fully support an employer's right to be as stupid and discriminatory as they wish).

I look at it as a self-correcting problem. It's a brain-dead stupid HR policy and firms that adopt brain-dead policies will eventually be beaten out by firms that don't.

And yes, I am a Libertarian. :-)

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#59
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

I probably wouldn't have used a pic of a befuddled looking black guy as the sole picture for an article about the unemployed.

I was offended as well, I thought they were portraying a black guy as the befuddled hiring manager who won't interview anyone who isn't currently employed.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#60
I wonder whether the companies that only hire people who are currently employed would also fire any of their existing staff who were looking for a job elsewhere?

The whole thing reminds me of an old story. A young man takes up with an an attractive woman who is married to a older, brutish boor. One thing leads to another and the brute catches them making out.

Honor must be satisfied, so the two men square off for a duel. The young man's aim is true, and he kills the brute, then beds the woman in a celebratory romp. In the afterglow, he asks her why she married such a noxious character.

"Well," she replies, "He won the last duel over me."

I wish these companies well in retaining their hires.

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