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Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#61

It's the first release without an official CD set [1], and OpenBSD was probably one of the last operating systems to provide official installation discs. I wonder if they'll start recommending third-party sellers of installation CDs and DVDs like Debian does [2]. [1] https://www.openbsd.org/orders.html [2] https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

I bought earlier versions from one such, https://www.osdisc.com/products/bsd/openbsd .

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#62
post #53

Maybe this isn't the best place to ask this, but how does OpenBSD handle "real world" security these days? Last time I checked, OpenBSD was heavily audited, with emphasis on shipping a secure base system. The problem, to me, is that every running system in the world has many packages installed to make it useful as an e.g. server. What use is a secure base system if installable packages aren't audited to the same degr…

There is a lot of functionality in Base that some aren't aware of: ldapd, httpd, IPSec + iked (VPN), pf (firewall, NAT), dhcpd, ntpd, smtpd, snmpd, radiusd, relayd (load balancer), tftpd, sshd, nfs, nsd and unbound (DNS) So, you could run an HTTPS site, with a Perl fastCGI site, sending emails, all out of Base Plus you get privsep'd X (xenocara)

Xenocara may not satisfy performance characteristics the way something like Wayland is. However, Xenocara is pretty awesome in (I believe) being the only X11 server to address the somewhat ugly security model of stuff running as root.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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post #7

> The following platforms were retired: armish, sparc, zaurus. Goodnight, sweet prince. The Sharp Zaurus was where I first ran OpenBSD.

Waaait what??

SPARC is one of the few unencumbered platforms without security bits (Intel ME or AMD PSP) and GPL cores: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11423350

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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post #53

Maybe this isn't the best place to ask this, but how does OpenBSD handle "real world" security these days? Last time I checked, OpenBSD was heavily audited, with emphasis on shipping a secure base system. The problem, to me, is that every running system in the world has many packages installed to make it useful as an e.g. server. What use is a secure base system if installable packages aren't audited to the same degr…

There is a lot of functionality in Base that some aren't aware of: ldapd, httpd, IPSec + iked (VPN), pf (firewall, NAT), dhcpd, ntpd, smtpd, snmpd, radiusd, relayd (load balancer), tftpd, sshd, nfs, nsd and unbound (DNS) So, you could run an HTTPS site, with a Perl fastCGI site, sending emails, all out of Base Plus you get privsep'd X (xenocara)

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Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#66

Sadly I don't often get to play with OpenBSD, but every time I do I'm impressed by how coherent an operation system it is. You really get the feeling that the developers care about delivering a system with a unified expression, where everything is meant to be used together. It's not just kernel bundled with a bunch of tools/programs which sort of seem to work together, but not in the same manor. Even FreeBSD have som…

Heh, as a FreeBSD user primarily, OpenBSD sometimes feels kinda empty to me. No ZFS, no DTrace, no jails, no mandatory access control, no CloudABI, no Linux compat layer…

Yep... it's kind of like C. Minimal and to the point.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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post #64
post #7

> The following platforms were retired: armish, sparc, zaurus. Goodnight, sweet prince. The Sharp Zaurus was where I first ran OpenBSD.

Waaait what?? SPARC is one of the few unencumbered platforms without security bits (Intel ME or AMD PSP) and GPL cores: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11423350

sparc64 is still supported. sparc is the 32-bit port.

https://www.openbsd.org/sparc.html - Discontinued

https://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html - Supported

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#68
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waaait what?? SPARC is one of the few unencumbered platforms without security bits (Intel ME or AMD PSP) and GPL cores: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11423350

sparc64 is still supported. sparc is the 32-bit port. https://www.openbsd.org/sparc.html - Discontinued https://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html - Supported

Oh. Whoops. Thanks heaps.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#69

Maybe this isn't the best place to ask this, but how does OpenBSD handle "real world" security these days? Last time I checked, OpenBSD was heavily audited, with emphasis on shipping a secure base system. The problem, to me, is that every running system in the world has many packages installed to make it useful as an e.g. server. What use is a secure base system if installable packages aren't audited to the same degr…

In addition to the other things people have mentioned, it also now has vmm/vmd. Also, much of the ported software has patches to make better use of OpenBSD mitigations, some make use of pledge(2).

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#70
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a lot of functionality in Base that some aren't aware of: ldapd, httpd, IPSec + iked (VPN), pf (firewall, NAT), dhcpd, ntpd, smtpd, snmpd, radiusd, relayd (load balancer), tftpd, sshd, nfs, nsd and unbound (DNS) So, you could run an HTTPS site, with a Perl fastCGI site, sending emails, all out of Base Plus you get privsep'd X (xenocara)

Xenocara may not satisfy performance characteristics the way something like Wayland is. However, Xenocara is pretty awesome in (I believe) being the only X11 server to address the somewhat ugly security model of stuff running as root.

I think most of the popular Linux distributions have been shipping rootless x11 for a few years now, too. Kernel Mode Setting was the big watershed feature.
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