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Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #11
ramshorns wrote: post #5

It's the first release without an official CD set [1], and OpenBSD was probably one of the last operating systems to provide official installation discs. I wonder if they'll start recommending third-party sellers of installation CDs and DVDs like Debian does [2]. [1] https://www.openbsd.org/orders.html [2] https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

Weren't these mostly just a nice way to contribute to the project and get something tangible in return, or did they not sell the disks at a profit?

The disks were apparently stopped because they no longer provided a relevant amount of profit-per-work - making CD's requires a lot of coordination work, and worldwide shipping isn't trivial.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by protomyth »

throwawayish wrote: post #33

Is there a router/firewall distro or administration tool for OpenBSD that's recommendable (e.g. like pfsense without all the enterprisey bloat, or like securityrouter without the licensing stuff)?

What problem are you trying to solve. I use it for a firewall and really only have a couple of files I back up or change.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by throwawayish »

protomyth wrote: post #42
throwawayish wrote: post #33

Is there a router/firewall distro or administration tool for OpenBSD that's recommendable (e.g. like pfsense without all the enterprisey bloat, or like securityrouter without the licensing stuff)?

What problem are you trying to solve. I use it for a firewall and really only have a couple of files I back up or change.

I have a Linux-based router/firewall, but it's all configuration files and stuff. Something with fancy graphs and statistics would be nice :)

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by JoachimSchipper »

Something1234 wrote: post #21

Do any VPS providers offer an OpenBSD image?

In addition to what has been said, any provider that provides a (RAM-based) rescue system will likely allow you to install OpenBSD by running the OpenBSD installer in qemu, with the 'real' disks mounted as the VM's disks.

This is not a supported or convenient way to do your first OpenBSD install. Having a serial console is not necessary, but recommended (in particular, don't forget to configure 0, not the em0 that qemu is likely to offer you.) That said, I've done this before on some Hetzner serverauction (bare-metal) box, and the procedure worked fine (as one would expect.)

(Of course, you can run into hardware that OpenBSD doesn't support. Consult the man pages to find what is supported, or just try - server hardware is pretty likely to be supported.)

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

#45

Post by protomyth »

throwawayish wrote: post #43
protomyth wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What problem are you trying to solve. I use it for a firewall and really only have a couple of files I back up or change.

I have a Linux-based router/firewall, but it's all configuration files and stuff. Something with fancy graphs and statistics would be nice :)

like pfstat http://www.benzedrine.ch/pfstat.html or something different?

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by yellowapple »

throwawayish wrote: post #43
protomyth wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What problem are you trying to solve. I use it for a firewall and really only have a couple of files I back up or change.

I have a Linux-based router/firewall, but it's all configuration files and stuff. Something with fancy graphs and statistics would be nice :)

For what it's worth, PF is a lot easier to work with than iptables. The configuration files involved (namely: pf.conf) are easy to read/write and well-documented.

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by yellowapple »

floatboth wrote: post #14
i336_ wrote: post #4

A (highly subjective) selection of things that seemed interesting, sorted from most to least noteworthy in my opinion -- - A lot of code has been removed or simplified to make the transition to multi-processor easier. - printf(3) family of formatting functions now report to syslog when the %s format is used with a NULL pointer. - When sending TCP streams they are locally stored in large mbuf clusters to improve memor…

Also: - The iwm(4) driver now supports 802.11n MIMO (MCS 0-15). - Enforcement of userland W^X on OCTEON Plus and later. Is the EdgeRouter Lite an Octeon "Plus"? - LLVM/Clang 4.0.0 (+ patches) Looks like they shipped LLVM 4 into an actual stable release before FreeBSD! (because it's the first LLVM for them) - New tpm(4) driver for Trusted Platform Module devices. But that one was in FreeBSD since 2010 :P

The fact that LLVM is now finding some official use (in the arm64 port), combined with the retirement of a couple more platforms, strongly signals that OpenBSD might very well switch to LLVM/clang (and away from GCC, which has very much non-ideal licensing terms).

Re: OpenBSD 6.1 released

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Post by yellowapple »

gbrown_ wrote: post #16
floatboth wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also: - The iwm(4) driver now supports 802.11n MIMO (MCS 0-15). - Enforcement of userland W^X on OCTEON Plus and later. Is the EdgeRouter Lite an Octeon "Plus"? - LLVM/Clang 4.0.0 (+ patches) Looks like they shipped LLVM 4 into an actual stable release before FreeBSD! (because it's the first LLVM for them) - New tpm(4) driver for Trusted Platform Module devices. But that one was in FreeBSD since 2010 :P

> Looks like they shipped LLVM 4 into an actual stable release before FreeBSD! (because it's the first LLVM for them) Note it's only in base for the ARM platform.

I have a feeling that will change in future releases.
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