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The unemployed will not be considered

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Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#31
My reaction to this is that it's not so much "unconscionable" as mind-numbingly stupid. Yeah, I agree that it's unfair to those of us who are looking for work (I was myself most recently) but from the perspective of those doing the hiring this seems like a weird sort of overcautiousness. Some of the most intelligent, accomplished, and qualified people I know have found themselves unemployed at some point in the last two years. Heck, I just got employed again three months ago after five months of unemployment.

I understand that companies get a lot of resumes these days, but the fact is that there are many, many much better ways of culling than to reject the unemployed. In point of fact, by stating up-front that you won't take resumes from those who aren't currently employed, you're cutting out what might be your best hiring pool. My experience is that people (myself included) who've been unemployed, especially for a little while, often have clearer heads going into a job, and tend to want it a whole lot more. Like I said, I was off the job recently for five months. You can take a guess as to how I attacked the work when I finally hit the job again: it was like I was living again. If I'd moved from my old job directly into the new, there would've been a longer adjustment period, I would've been more disoriented, and most importantly it would've taken longer to realign my motivation and ambition.

Being unemployed - being unable to provide for myself - focused me pretty sharply, I can tell you. And it made me eager to get back to work and dive into it. I think other people are the same; the until-recently unemployed can be some of the most motivated people on earth.

This is just to say, to anyone in a hiring position who's considering trying this to cut back on an abundance of resumes: increase the qualifications, streamline your resume review process, and even accept that you might have to pick a handful of resumes to work from at random - but don't throw away what might be the most motivated and willing pool of applicants available to you by asking for resumes only from people that are currently employed.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, HuffPo is leftist, but I don't see how rage over this particular issue has jack-all to do with where you lie on the partisan spectrum. I'd expect even many full-bore libertarians to find that policy stupid, discriminatory or both (though they would more fully support an employer's right to be as stupid and discriminatory as they wish).

Stupid and discriminatory, they could probably agree on. The difference is in how they react. Leftist: That's unfair! There ought to be a law. Rightist: Meh, they probably have their reasons. Anyway, their funeral.

I think those characterizations are rather context-dependent, though. Restating my point somewhat differently, the "what should be done about it" reaction lies on a somewhat independent axis from the "how angry am I about this" reaction.

For example: A business that refused to hire gun owners would probably get a far more rage-filled reaction from a rightist than a leftist, but it's very roughly analogous.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

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I wonder how they look at people that were starting their own company, freelancing, etc...? When I'm not in the fulltime employ of one company, I'm generally working on my own projects, freelancing, consulting, etc. My resume never looks to have blank sections even if I get laid off and the income keeps flowing that way too. But what does it mean to be employed? Receiving a paycheck? RMS doesn't take a paycheck from…

"But what does it mean to be employed? Receiving a paycheck? RMS doesn't take a paycheck from MIT, so he's both homeless and unemployed by the standard of receiving a paycheck and having an apartment/home. Yet for the right position, he's infinitely qualified." RMS may not get a paycheck from MIT, but he is making money. He has at least one book for sale and charges for signed pictures of himself. I am pretty sure he…

Right. The point is that he could be considered unemployed despite making money.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#36
Ugh, come on humanity, stop letting me down. Reminds me of the South Park episode "Night of the Living Homeless":

The homeless first started arriving in Evergreen about three months ago. At first there were only a few of them, askin' for change, sleeping in the parks. But then more showed up, and we realized there was somethin' different about them. They fed off of our change to the point that they could actually start renting apartments. We knew it wouldn't be long before the homeless actually started buying homes. And then we'd have no idea who was homeless and who wasn't! The people living in the house right next door to you could be homeless and you wouldn't even know! Nobody could trust anybody! Fights broke out. War! That's when I started suspecting that my own wife, who I'd been living with for twenty years, was actually homeless. So I had to burn her. In her bed while she slept.

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

#38
If you needed further evidence, this suggests that there are ridiculous inefficiencies in matching up labor and jobs that you could make money solving. (In this case, caused by the dating site conundrum: there are more men then women, causing men to send out lots of messages without much thought, causing women to be very choosy in responding to messages, causing frustrated men to send more messages, causing women to be even more choosy in replying, etc etc. Though "must already be in a relationship" would not be a very mainstream criteria for dating sites. I hope.)

Re: The unemployed will not be considered

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Ugh, come on humanity, stop letting me down. Reminds me of the South Park episode "Night of the Living Homeless": The homeless first started arriving in Evergreen about three months ago. At first there were only a few of them, askin' for change, sleeping in the parks. But then more showed up, and we realized there was somethin' different about them. They fed off of our change to the point that they could actually sta…

The fact that there are people writing brilliant satires like this might give some hope for humanity; that, and the fact that there are companies creating jobs that people want, even if hiring policies can be foul, discriminatory, and stupid.
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