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Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by dreamlayers »

AlexandrB wrote: post #97
bitL wrote: post #22

Wonderful, so Twitter is now a tool for corporate propaganda, Google is providing Censorship-as-a-Service API, Facebook is removing links classified as "Fake News(tm)", Reddit is deleting whatever mods don't agree with etc. Seems like we are going full steam into a dystopian society. I think I should start reading Solzhenitsyn to prepare for what is coming...

> Wonderful, so Twitter is now a tool for corporate propaganda, Google is providing Censorship-as-a-Service API, Facebook is removing links classified as "Fake News(tm)", Reddit is deleting whatever mods don't agree with etc. This was inevitable. All the above-mentioned services are funded - in large part - by ads. When it came to choosing between serving the users vs. the advertisers the latter would always win in t…

What is needed is some kind of distributed infrastructure like Usenet, which is not owned or controlled by any one entity.

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by engx »

jerf wrote: post #115
AlexandrB wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wonderful, so Twitter is now a tool for corporate propaganda, Google is providing Censorship-as-a-Service API, Facebook is removing links classified as "Fake News(tm)", Reddit is deleting whatever mods don't agree with etc. This was inevitable. All the above-mentioned services are funded - in large part - by ads. When it came to choosing between serving the users vs. the advertisers the latter would always win in t…

"This was inevitable. All the above-mentioned services are funded - in large part - by ads." Unsustainable situations always seem to go on for longer than you expect, but I wonder if we're finally getting to be just a year or three out from Adpocalypse, when the ad-supported internet companies finally end up having to face head on that you can not serve two masters. I wonder if there's going to be a market developing…

Facebook is like a network TV sitcom, produced around advertising. Everything is artificially distorted for that purpose.

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by brandonmenc »

diogenescynic wrote: post #19

I'll definitely not be flying United or Delta ever again after this incident. Over-selling spaces on a plane is a scummy practice and shokldn't be allowed. When someone needs to cancel they still pocket the change fee or keep tne entire fee if they miss the flight. Seems like borderline fraud.

> Over-selling spaces on a plane is a scummy practice and shokldn't be allowed.

Without overbooking, you'd switch to complaining about thousand dollar domestic flights.

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by scrollaway »

eutropia wrote: post #126
scrollaway wrote: post #51

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Overbooking is an extremely common practice. In fact, I don't know of a single airline that doesn't overbook. On a plane with hundreds of seats you almost always get cancellations; the small amount of times you don't, you almost always get people volunteering to be pushed to the next flight in exchange for money (I've done it myself a few times as I don't mind working in airports). Cases like these are exceedingly ra…

starting with not simply not offering a better deal to the first other person who volunteered...

Like I said, there's a million things. But I'd say beating somebody up is far more criminal behaviour than having a stupid policy.

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by [deleted] »

artursapek wrote: post #149

> Do you think rich people on their own jets get TSA patdowns the same way? No. What we are creating is a state of freedom for the rich, and compliant abuse for the majority of the citizens. Rich people aren't going to hijack their own jet and kill themselves in the name of Allah.

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Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by cmiles74 »

artursapek wrote: post #149

> Do you think rich people on their own jets get TSA patdowns the same way? No. What we are creating is a state of freedom for the rich, and compliant abuse for the majority of the citizens. Rich people aren't going to hijack their own jet and kill themselves in the name of Allah.

Pretty much no one is. You're talking about something astronomically rare.

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by zeteo »

JackFr wrote: post #121
zeteo wrote: post #98

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> Tweeter and all others you mentioned are private corporations. Their goal is to turn profit to their shareholders - NOTHING MORE. Not sure what that's supposed to mean. Would it be OK for a food company to use expired ingredients if it increased their profit, or for FedEx trucks to run over people if it helped their bottom line? Private corporations have various degrees of responsibility to the general public, depe…

I think your analogies are strained. A better analogy might be to a broadcaster, who because of a monopoly on a scarce public resources, does have certain responsibilities. But Twitter isn't a broadcaster (nor are they a public utility), and their value is in their network, which they literally have spent billions of dollars creating. It's theirs to do with as they see fit.

The broadcaster has also spent billions for their network [1] but that doesn't absolve them from responsibilities. Like it or not, Twitter has become a major platform for public speech and it's practically impossible to pack up and take thousands and millions of followers elsewhere. So yes, they have a monopoly on a scarce public resource and should act accordingly. At the very least they should have transparency for their deleting and shadowbanning process. The people who've brought in thousands of followers and kept them on Twitter should have a minimum of rights too.

[1] https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-rakes-in-45-billion-from-wirel...

Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident

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Post by jostmey »

artursapek wrote: post #149

> Do you think rich people on their own jets get TSA patdowns the same way? No. What we are creating is a state of freedom for the rich, and compliant abuse for the majority of the citizens. Rich people aren't going to hijack their own jet and kill themselves in the name of Allah.

Neither am I going to commit a terrorist act. What is your point? That it is okay for the rich get to live under a different set of rules?

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Post by arca_vorago »

artursapek wrote: post #149

> Do you think rich people on their own jets get TSA patdowns the same way? No. What we are creating is a state of freedom for the rich, and compliant abuse for the majority of the citizens. Rich people aren't going to hijack their own jet and kill themselves in the name of Allah.

Are you defending the TSA policies, or the scanners, or are you just defending the rich?

It's this kind of trade liberty for security attitude that is wrong with Americans these days. Fine, go ahead and trade your liberty for your imagined security (and I promise you, it's imagined), but don't try to use your fear to take away my liberty!

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Post by beaconstudios »

spectistcles wrote: post #83
oska wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporatism, not capitalism.

Corporatism in this sense is really just monopolization of capitalism, which in itself is a symptom of unchecked capitalism.

corporatism is a specific legal implementation of capitalism. Capitalism is really just private property plus trade. Capitalism can exist outside of a government framework (like many black-grey markets do), but corporatism cannot.
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