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Building a NAS

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Re: Building a NAS

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I might get that new consumer-grade switch with 10GbE copper, but that's down the road a bit.

I wonder when we will see 10GbE ports on laptops though!

Promise sells a ThunderBolt to 10GbE adapter

https://www.promise.com/Products/SANLink/SANLink2

Re: Building a NAS

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Whenever I see one of these periodic postings of people using FreeNAS, and they come up on HN every few months, I'm always looking for the answer to IMO the most obvious, most basic question: Why FreeNAS; why not vanilla FreeBSD? I've never seen a good, detailed answer to this. Mostly the response is along the lines of: "well, of course use FreeNAS, after all you're building a NAS!" From what I can tell, FreeNAS offe…

Having a GUI that is easy to setup is definitely a plus. My experience is that along with setting up, we also would like to add some monitoring capabilities that would send us some alerts about the disk failures or usage threshold stats. I have been part of the team that built ElastiStor (ZFS on FreeBSD), http://www.cloudbyte.com/.

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Wow, this is an amazingly detailed blog post. I only skimmed it, but since I'm in the process of setting up my own NAS I'll definitely have to revisit it and read slowly. Is anyone here using FreeNAS Corral? I've been toying around with it for a few days, and its been a frustrating experience. My first sign that I should've avoided it was that trying to install 10.0.3 with UEFI just fails. With 9.10 they have a nice…

They have recently updated the download page for FreeNAS Corral to say in large letters "NOT FOR PRODUCTION" and after using it for the last month, I can see why. A good example of some issues, would be found here: https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/10-0-3-problems...

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Commercial consumer NAS boxes are notoriously bad wrt security though, even firewalled. Apple Airport Extreme is probably the only one with a decent track record (and I say this as someone who doesn't use Apple products). Eg QNAP requires you to install security patches manually, and as a result had a ShellShock worm exploiting QNAP boxes: https://threatpost.com/shellshock-worm-exploiting-unpatched-...

That report isn't quite accurate; you can install updates automatically on the device I have (I don't know if there was some point in time where that wasn't possible; seems like a basic feature). Some require reboots though, which is why by default updates aren't automatic. Who sets their servers on fully automatic updates (and reboots) anyway? I mean, even forgetting about the reboots - you don't want fileservers to…

This kind of NAS should definitely automatically update and reboot rather than become wormable.

A high-availability file server is a different beast from a home NAS.

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I originally posted this on reddit, but I'm happy to see it reposted elsewhere. Let me know if anyone has any questions.

Thank you for shamelessly copying the steps in the Bhyve video I created. :-)

You'll be pleased to know that in the 9.10 nightly train, the base OS has been upgraded to FreeBSD 11 and the GUI has a UI for Bhyve, also enables VGA consoles.

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I have a 36T NAS (26T usable raidz2), built using the Norco 4224 chassis. The backplane / drive trays that it comes with aren't 100% reliable, so I would recommend trying to get a SuperMicro chassis instead. I keep mine in the attic to keep the noise down. Mine runs fine on an old Q6600 with 4G of RAM. I'm not trying to do anything silly, like enabling dedupe, so it's not a problem. I'm running ZFS on Linux, again, n…

36T to CrashPlan sits on 36GB of RAM at all times... screw that. rclone never uses more than ~2GB to manage my whole 50TB dataset. edit: Also, I'm using a SuperMicro chassis, not a Norco. I've got a section where I go into why I went with SuperMicro.

> rclone never uses more than ~2GB to manage my whole 50TB dataset.

How do you handle file versions with rclone?

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Out of curiosity, how do windows filesystems for solutions like these compare to ZFS in terms of reliability and features ? ZFS has been my only choice for NAS servers at home primarily due to it's data integrity features.

They don't, they are equivalent to ext4 (ie. no error checking, dedupe etc...).

Deduplication went into NTFS on Windows Server in 2012.

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> I took 6x 2TB laptop drives in a 6 drive "mobile rack" that fits in one 5.24 bay in my desktop (IcyDock MB996SP-6SB) Thanks, I didn't realise these exist. I've been wanting to create a DIY version of Synology's "slim" model line [1] for a while, but haven't been able to find an off-the-shelf enclosure that would fit my needs. Putting six drives in a 5.25" bay is a fantastic idea. [1] https://www.synology.com/en-glo…

Oddly enough, I had gotten these drives originally a couple years ago to go in a 1U Supermicro "twin" machine, with 8 drive bays split across two physical machines in a 1U chassis. Then the cheap hosting for that fell through and they just sat in a box. Came across them while cleaning the garage and put them into service. I think these are the Toshiba drives. Seems like 2TB is still as big as you can go on laptop for…

> Seems like 2TB is still as big as you can go on laptop form factor spinning drives.

Seagate has 4TB drives now (and I think they're still shuckable), but they're 15mm in height.

I read somewhere on Reddit's r/DataHoarder that they might be moving away from a SATA connector on their portable drives though…

Re: Building a NAS

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I own HP Microserver Gen8. It allows to use 4 disks, it's a real server (ECC memory, hardware watchdog, KVM over network and much more), it's extremely quiet and it costs $200 with Celeron processor. Also it's quite outdated at this moment and requires using "hardware raid" (implemented in software proprietary driver) for optimal cooling, it's awesome machine and I didn't found anything better yet. I only wish HP wou…

Why does it require using hardware raid for optimal cooling? I set up one of these recently using AHCI (disabling the hardware raid controller) with mdadm.

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I rebuilt my home NAS a few months ago. Former one was a huge Debian tower box with one system+temp storage disk plus 3 soft RAID1 pairs. It worked well for about 6 years, save for a partial failure due to bad disk connectors (SATA connectors are among the worst junk ever designed by a human). CPU was a low power Celeron more than enough for the task. When building the new one I wanted to reduce to the minimum both p…

For OMV, you did something wrong. I've been using the project since its first public release. Never had any real issues.
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