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Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by toomuchtodo »

anigbrowl wrote: post #23
std_throwaway wrote: post #7

I don't like sensationalism as it clouds the mind with short-lived buzzes. Instead of always trying to alarm people of the big invisible terror lurking in the dark, we should educate people on how to handle the situation. What are the scenarios? What can we do ourselves for those scenarios (not to prevent, but to prepare)? Which cities and countries will be lost at what point in time? How do we protect ourselves? Be…

We already do this. Go read up on how towns in Florida regularly get flooded by seawater and development continues apace. https://insideclimatenews.org/news/01032016/ft-lauderdale-cl...

Miami Beach has already spent about $400 million to keep the ocean at bay. At some point, it becomes unsustainable.

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by deckiedan »

tempestn wrote: post #14
std_throwaway wrote: post #7

I don't like sensationalism as it clouds the mind with short-lived buzzes. Instead of always trying to alarm people of the big invisible terror lurking in the dark, we should educate people on how to handle the situation. What are the scenarios? What can we do ourselves for those scenarios (not to prevent, but to prepare)? Which cities and countries will be lost at what point in time? How do we protect ourselves? Be…

I agree with you, but I don't think it's wrong that there's a general feeling that we're working on this problem, and we're getting better. Look at all these solar panels and electric vehicles we're reading about. We know there's still C02 being pumped out, but at least we're starting to get a handle on it. This shows that actually we're not. We've got a positive second derivative here. The current path leads pretty…

Please, please write to your local party reps in all those parties explaining your dilemma! This will probably have as much or more value in terms of policy change as a vote. Parties lump so many disparate issues together, they need to hear what individual issues are actually important to the rest of us.

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by toomuchtodo »

cleeus wrote: post #29
diafygi wrote: post #13

Howdy! I work in cleantech, and I guess it's that time again for a what-are-we-going-to-do-about-it post :) To start, here's my favorite climate change joke: "They say we won't act until it's too late... Luckily, it's too late!" ==So what can you do about it?== The biggest thing this article doesn't say that is most relevant to the HN audience is that you can work at a new energy technology company! Our industries ar…

I have seen some solar companies in my region, but I honestly am not convinced yet that solar is the way to go. Does anyone know if solar can sustain itself? (Does a photovoltaic panel produce more electric energy during its lifetime than was required to produce it?)

Yes, a solar panel is net positive energy-wise, and will produce more power over its lifetime then required to manufacture it. If in the US, there are both federal tax credits and state incentives (depending on the state).

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by throwaway29292 »

tajen wrote: post #24
nielsbot wrote: post #2

I am terrified. Should I be?

I often wonder what we'll die of. Direct consequence of global warming like flooding, tornado, or heat wave? A worldwide epidemic? Will wealth be relevant in saving us from mass famines? A more indirect way such as massive riots caused by, say, the global disorganization of wealth? A global methane event, bursting out of the oceans, and burning the whole atmosphere? Or simply Trump deciding that global warming can on…

Probably not direct consequences, more indirect ones like riots. And if things get that bad, then maybe erasing half or 75% human activities WOULD be the only way, don't need a Trump to declare that.

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by ajdlinux »

diafygi wrote: post #13

Howdy! I work in cleantech, and I guess it's that time again for a what-are-we-going-to-do-about-it post :) To start, here's my favorite climate change joke: "They say we won't act until it's too late... Luckily, it's too late!" ==So what can you do about it?== The biggest thing this article doesn't say that is most relevant to the HN audience is that you can work at a new energy technology company! Our industries ar…

Do you know of any cleantech-relevant open source projects that a software engineer could contribute to outside of paid employment?

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by llukas »

cleeus wrote: post #29
diafygi wrote: post #13

Howdy! I work in cleantech, and I guess it's that time again for a what-are-we-going-to-do-about-it post :) To start, here's my favorite climate change joke: "They say we won't act until it's too late... Luckily, it's too late!" ==So what can you do about it?== The biggest thing this article doesn't say that is most relevant to the HN audience is that you can work at a new energy technology company! Our industries ar…

I have seen some solar companies in my region, but I honestly am not convinced yet that solar is the way to go. Does anyone know if solar can sustain itself? (Does a photovoltaic panel produce more electric energy during its lifetime than was required to produce it?)

http://nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/ncomms13728

As a result, we show a break-even between the cumulative disadvantages and benefits of photovoltaics, for both energy use and greenhouse gas emissions, occurs between 1997 and 2018, depending on photovoltaic performance and model uncertainties.

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by vesak »

std_throwaway wrote: post #7

I don't like sensationalism as it clouds the mind with short-lived buzzes. Instead of always trying to alarm people of the big invisible terror lurking in the dark, we should educate people on how to handle the situation. What are the scenarios? What can we do ourselves for those scenarios (not to prevent, but to prepare)? Which cities and countries will be lost at what point in time? How do we protect ourselves? Be…

>Be constructive, be creative.

Ok, solution time. Let's immediately ban everyone who denies that climate change is human made from all positions of power. That implies stripping them of both titles and wealth.

Re: Atmospheric CO2 levels accelerate upwards

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Post by retrogradeorbit »

vesak wrote: post #37
std_throwaway wrote: post #7

I don't like sensationalism as it clouds the mind with short-lived buzzes. Instead of always trying to alarm people of the big invisible terror lurking in the dark, we should educate people on how to handle the situation. What are the scenarios? What can we do ourselves for those scenarios (not to prevent, but to prepare)? Which cities and countries will be lost at what point in time? How do we protect ourselves? Be…

>Be constructive, be creative. Ok, solution time. Let's immediately ban everyone who denies that climate change is human made from all positions of power. That implies stripping them of both titles and wealth.

I vote we kill you first. You breathe out CO2, right?

EDIT: Nice silent edit there. Let me just quote what you just deleted from your comment "Since they won't probably give in voluntarily and since many of them are already in power, this further implies a violent uprising."

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