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List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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By providing this list, they are making it super easy for the secret service to give the "no dot" manufacturers a call/visit (which is who asked for the dots to be on there in the first place if I am not mistaken).

They could always use the lego printer http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1397675

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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post #2

By providing this list, they are making it super easy for the secret service to give the "no dot" manufacturers a call/visit (which is who asked for the dots to be on there in the first place if I am not mistaken). They could always use the lego printer http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1397675

I would think that the secret service has the funds to purchase a specimen of each released printer model and test it themselves.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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post #2

By providing this list, they are making it super easy for the secret service to give the "no dot" manufacturers a call/visit (which is who asked for the dots to be on there in the first place if I am not mistaken). They could always use the lego printer http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1397675

If the Secret Service is relying on the EFF to figure out which printers don't have tracking dots then they might as well just give up and go home.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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post #2

By providing this list, they are making it super easy for the secret service to give the "no dot" manufacturers a call/visit (which is who asked for the dots to be on there in the first place if I am not mistaken). They could always use the lego printer http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1397675

I would imagine they already have a much more comprehensive list anyway.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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Can someone clarify for me:

1) Why do manufacturers do this? Is it for their own internal warranty control / tracking, or is there a broader federal mandate motivating this?

2) The dots are only useful in after-the-fact analysis, correct? If I print something and then there's reason to suspect me they can print something, compare, and verify, but there's no mechanism to find the initial document and find the printer, correct?

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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I'd rather have one of the printers listed as having yellow tracking dots and yank out the color cartridges.

Its easier to disable a security measure you know than praying there isn't a security measure you don't know.

There is still a chance of a redundancy but I believe it is somewhat lower - as normally companies would do the bare minimum to comply with a directive like this one.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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Can someone clarify for me: 1) Why do manufacturers do this? Is it for their own internal warranty control / tracking, or is there a broader federal mandate motivating this? 2) The dots are only useful in after-the-fact analysis, correct? If I print something and then there's reason to suspect me they can print something, compare, and verify, but there's no mechanism to find the initial document and find the printer,…

It was intended as a tracking mechanism against counterfeit currency.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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Can someone clarify for me: 1) Why do manufacturers do this? Is it for their own internal warranty control / tracking, or is there a broader federal mandate motivating this? 2) The dots are only useful in after-the-fact analysis, correct? If I print something and then there's reason to suspect me they can print something, compare, and verify, but there's no mechanism to find the initial document and find the printer,…

Re 2: Supposedly the manufacturer is supposed to keep track of which printers go to which stores, and the stores are supposed to keep track of the credit card used to purchase the printers.

Re: List of Printers Which Do or Do Not Display Tracking Dots

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post #7

I'd rather have one of the printers listed as having yellow tracking dots and yank out the color cartridges. Its easier to disable a security measure you know than praying there isn't a security measure you don't know. There is still a chance of a redundancy but I believe it is somewhat lower - as normally companies would do the bare minimum to comply with a directive like this one.

> I'd rather have one of the printers listed as having yellow tracking dots and yank out the color cartridges.

The trouble is that, for one dubious reason or another, a lot of modern laser printers will refuse to print without a complete set of cartridges that report that they contain sufficient toner. Whether the colour in question is actually required and whether enough toner is physically present do not seem to be relevant.

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