Shouldn't we be more critical about the methodology? For example, it's not clear to me how it proves that the correlation is due to causation.
The relationship between social media use and well-being
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Re: The relationship between social media use and well-being
#92I feel the 'social media is bad for you' thing, but for different reasons. I mean, I don't really understand the 'feeling inadequate because of my cousin's baby pictures' thing. I mean, I am happy for them, but that isn't the life I want, so I don't feel bad that I don't have it. Alternately, I could be less jealous than most people, but let's run with the more realistic first reason. For me, the problem with social…
This may sound bizarre, but I used to have that same problem... and it's actually arguing on the internet that made me realize I needed to lose the anger, lose the need to control , and... then I spent a couple of years really making an effort. If you're already at the point of recognizing what you've described about yourself, you've done the hardest part, and now you just need to build new habits. That said, avoidin…
You're one of the best posters here imo, so good job.
I disagree that argument is about recognizing each other's rhetorical flourishes. Argument is much, much, much more often about people opposed to each other, and bystanders making a decision about who won.
See: courts.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an anecdote, I very rarely use Facebook. But recently saw someone on my feed share their thoughts on a very interesting topic that had a lot of nuance. I thought I would weigh in because I know this person is thoughtful and open to productive discussion, so I leave a comment. Of course their friends who I don't know can also see my comment, and they quickly weigh in with their un-thought out vitriol. I try to keep…
I have had my Facebook account deleted now for about a year now. A major motivation in doing so was when an ex-coworker of mine and my Dad got in a very heated argument. It was incredibly awkward and could have even harmed my professional career had it been some other coworkers/ex-coworkers I was friends with. Facebook thrusts humans into very unnatural environments and just says "have at it"
Arguing is very natural and we would do a whole lot more of it if we lived in real democracies where our votes mattered and had serious consequences (as opposed to a once-every-four-years thing, while everything else is left up to "the market").
You can't both have your opinion matter, and disagreements of opinion not matter.
Re: The relationship between social media use and well-being
#94I feel the 'social media is bad for you' thing, but for different reasons. I mean, I don't really understand the 'feeling inadequate because of my cousin's baby pictures' thing. I mean, I am happy for them, but that isn't the life I want, so I don't feel bad that I don't have it. Alternately, I could be less jealous than most people, but let's run with the more realistic first reason. For me, the problem with social…
> lots of people are there who lack a background in early internet culture or academic culture I think this hits it. Many (most?) people just aren't used to having people disagree with them. Let alone voice those disagreements and be expected to defend their beliefs and explain why they think they're right. For many people the way they think is correct, just is correct. It's not something that needs defending or even…
You get to the heart of the issue.
So much complaining about arguments in social media boils down to "they didn't let me be!", rarely accompanied by an explanation of what the opinion stated was, as if it didn't matter.
If opinions matter, feelings will get hurt. There's ways to mitigate this to some degree, but at the end of the day many positions are irreconciliable, and just because people stop talking about it doesn't mean that it won't eventually bubble up.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
This may sound bizarre, but I used to have that same problem... and it's actually arguing on the internet that made me realize I needed to lose the anger, lose the need to control , and... then I spent a couple of years really making an effort. If you're already at the point of recognizing what you've described about yourself, you've done the hardest part, and now you just need to build new habits. That said, avoidin…
You're one of the best posters here imo, so good job. I disagree that argument is about recognizing each other's rhetorical flourishes. Argument is much, much, much more often about people opposed to each other, and bystanders making a decision about who won. See: courts.
First of all, thank you, I really appreciate your kind words.
Beyond that, I agree utterly about the notion that argument is too often seen as a sport or a "winning" game. The best arguments IMO are ones in which both parties are reaching out to each other, trying to make a point or communicate some idea. It's a contest, but it's also cooperative when everything goes well.
I think about the Wright Brothers, who used the old rhetorical trick of, when they reached an impasse, switching positions in an argument. That's the way to do it! You can be hugely invested in a position, but still be willing to challenge it.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're one of the best posters here imo, so good job. I disagree that argument is about recognizing each other's rhetorical flourishes. Argument is much, much, much more often about people opposed to each other, and bystanders making a decision about who won. See: courts.
First of all, thank you, I really appreciate your kind words. Beyond that, I agree utterly about the notion that argument is too often seen as a sport or a "winning" game. The best arguments IMO are ones in which both parties are reaching out to each other, trying to make a point or communicate some idea. It's a contest, but it's also cooperative when everything goes well. I think about the Wright Brothers, who used…
I don't know if I agree that the best arguments result in agreement between opponents.
It's nice to have and good when it happens, but many arguments boil down to matters where there are, in very real terms, winners and losers.
Not everything can be patched up procedurally, nor can people "switch up" when it's eg: a black man told to try to understand the slaver's argument.
It's good to develop some capabilities to cope with difficult and heated discussions.
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#98I came to the same conclusion a few years ago, when I delete my social accounts like Facebook. They only show you the best slices of individual lives, all day, every day. When compared to your life, it makes it look like you're doing nothing with your life. That it's completely boring, while all of these people are living these amazing adventures everyday. Combine that with all of the vitriol comments plaguing all of…
When I used facebook I always liked to share my failures with friends. I tried to make them funny. I liked dealing with it that way, it let me move on.
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#99Ironically, I find the only internet interactions that stress me out is not FB or twitter its when i post on hacker news (like this:)) I think mostly because i care and also people here can be very confrontational.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
First of all, thank you, I really appreciate your kind words. Beyond that, I agree utterly about the notion that argument is too often seen as a sport or a "winning" game. The best arguments IMO are ones in which both parties are reaching out to each other, trying to make a point or communicate some idea. It's a contest, but it's also cooperative when everything goes well. I think about the Wright Brothers, who used…
I don't know if I agree that the best arguments result in agreement between opponents. It's nice to have and good when it happens, but many arguments boil down to matters where there are, in very real terms, winners and losers. Not everything can be patched up procedurally, nor can people "switch up" when it's eg: a black man told to try to understand the slaver's argument. It's good to develop some capabilities to c…
>I don't know if I agree that the best arguments result in agreement between opponents.
They don't end in agreement, they begin with cooperation; you might not resolve the argument, or your position might prevail, or even change. As you say, there is no argument to be had in some cases, there is no reason. I'm talking about a methodology, rather than an outcome; you can still disagree.
That said, in the case of something like the slave and their master, I'd suggest that an argument is pointless in any case; what's needed is a fight (in the literal sense).