Web needs rethink to stop “nasty” ideas spreading, says Tim Berners-Lee

Paradoxically, if you want to defend freedom of speech, you can't allow ideologies that are anti-free speech to spread "e.g. the new resurgence in authoritarianism and fascism"

Re: Web needs rethink to stop “nasty” ideas spreading, says Tim Berners-Lee

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Post by mythrwy » Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 8:14 PM UTC

Websites don't spread nasty ideas. People spread nasty ideas.

When nasty websites are outlawed only outlaws will have nasty websites.

And you can take my HTTP server when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Re: Web needs rethink to stop “nasty” ideas spreading, says Tim Berners-Lee

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Post by mythrwy » Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 8:17 PM UTC

kesselvon wrote: post #7

damiencarol wrote: post #4

Yeah! We need something to stop all those 'crimethinking' things...

Paradoxically, if you want to defend freedom of speech, you can't allow ideologies that are anti-free speech to spread "e.g. the new resurgence in authoritarianism and fascism"

Sure you can. In fact, you must. As long (and this is very important) as it remains speech.

Re: Web needs rethink to stop “nasty” ideas spreading, says Tim Berners-Lee

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Post by sametmax » Mon, Apr 10, 2017, 9:13 PM UTC

mythrwy wrote: post #9

kesselvon wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paradoxically, if you want to defend freedom of speech, you can't allow ideologies that are anti-free speech to spread "e.g. the new resurgence in authoritarianism and fascism"

Sure you can. In fact, you must. As long (and this is very important) as it remains speech.

Exactly. People confuse allowing people to express anything and passivity. But first:

- you can react to hate speech by positive actions to counteract it;

- you can forbid hate that goes beyond speech.