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Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by isk517 »

hourislate wrote: post #14

It's interesting why Canada has not suffered the same fate as Mexico? Could it have something to do with a Government that believes in the rule of law and a citizenry that respects that? If I were to lay blame on anyone then I would have to lay it at the feet of the Mexican Government. There corruption has no boundaries. They bleed the Nation of not only it's wealth but it's future. It's easy to play the victim and b…

I would imagine it is because Canada was largely worthless (compared to the all of our southern neighbours) until the 20th century. In order to make money off of Canada long term infrastructure and colonial operations were necessary which meant the need for a strong government, compared to Mexico and much of South America which were much easier to plunder by their colonial overloads without as much investment.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by mythrwy »

senorjazz wrote: post #27
hourislate wrote: post #14

It's interesting why Canada has not suffered the same fate as Mexico? Could it have something to do with a Government that believes in the rule of law and a citizenry that respects that? If I were to lay blame on anyone then I would have to lay it at the feet of the Mexican Government. There corruption has no boundaries. They bleed the Nation of not only it's wealth but it's future. It's easy to play the victim and b…

The amount of money at play is enough to corrupt anyone. IF you are working 40-50 hours a week for $80. And some one offers you $500 to just look the other way stating they don't want any trouble here, they don't even want to stop here, this is all going north, but with a clear hint there will be trouble here what are you going to do? Perhaps your kids are ill, need new clothes...

Or perhaps your kids will suddenly get "ill" if you don't comply. Carrot and stick you know.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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hourislate wrote: post #14

It's interesting why Canada has not suffered the same fate as Mexico? Could it have something to do with a Government that believes in the rule of law and a citizenry that respects that? If I were to lay blame on anyone then I would have to lay it at the feet of the Mexican Government. There corruption has no boundaries. They bleed the Nation of not only it's wealth but it's future. It's easy to play the victim and b…

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Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by test1235 »

te_chris wrote: post #10

I read this book a couple of years ago, highly recommend it. https://www.amazon.co.uk/El-Narco-Bloody-Mexican-Cartels/dp/... The narco epidemic in Mexico is morbidly fascinating and thoroughly depressing as someone who's travelled to Mexico and loves the country and its people.

I just finished reading Dreamland which I also thought was good.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dreamland-True-Americas-Opiate-Epid...

This book has more of a focus on American pharma industry but still has lots of interesting insider insights.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by quirkafleeg »

chrischen wrote: post #24
hourislate wrote: post #14

It's interesting why Canada has not suffered the same fate as Mexico? Could it have something to do with a Government that believes in the rule of law and a citizenry that respects that? If I were to lay blame on anyone then I would have to lay it at the feet of the Mexican Government. There corruption has no boundaries. They bleed the Nation of not only it's wealth but it's future. It's easy to play the victim and b…

Well if you watched Narcos, cocaine had to transit from Columbia through Mexico. Seemed like every part of the feeding tube of drugs gets wrecked by it.

Hate to do this, but since it's a common mistake also repeated in the reply, it's Colombia.

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

The solution is clear, de-escalate the war on drugs, reform sentencing guidelines, invest in treatment instead of interdiction.

Yet the incoming AG and his inner circle are intent on reversing the progress made to this end over the last decade or so, and instead want to take us back to the policies of the late 80s and 90s. We know where that got us. The private prison companies must be salivating over what's to come.

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Post by sqeaky »

mirimir wrote: post #8

Forget CIA conspiracy theory. This is just fallout from US problems. Mainly de-industrialization, health care tied to employment, and the War on Drugs.

The war on drugs connection is obvious, but how does our shitty health care system play into this?

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by sqeaky »

devoply wrote: post #7
frozenport wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>or do you really believe Assad on the eve of peace negotiations when everything is going his way would bomb his own people Its going his way because he bombed his own people. Although for a full disclosure they are different ethnicity. Saddam Hussein did similar things.

Well it's a question of framing. If America is in fact world's police man who protect the rights and freedom of all citizens of the world then America routinely bombs its own Arab citizens and destroys millions of lives to protect their rights.

Even from that perspective the US still doesn't use chemical weapons on people.

The only use of weapons of mass destruction by the US was in WWII, and nukes weren't consider off limits yet. Since then we helped to get them banned in as many places as possible, and in general find them too indiscriminate.

Just like the world community agreed chemicals were a bad idea after WWI. Countries using the WMDs use them once in one war and found them so reprehensible that everyone gets together afterward and an agrees that these are too much even in war against hated enemies.

Anyone using any WMD after the hard lessons about them have already been learned is so evil that it is trivially easy to get many armed nations, even those with only the loosest ties, to attack them.

Consider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_of_mass_destru...

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by coldtea »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #15

I wonder where more emphasis would work: Greater searches of stuff coming into America, or greater searches going out? stop drugs, or stop guns, pick one. Which would make the most impact?

>stop drugs, or stop guns, pick one. Which would make the most impact?

Legalizing drugs?

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by erghw4u34567 »

hackermailman wrote: post #29
yAnonymous wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year Someone should tell them that firearms can be reloaded...

There's a large blackmarket in Mexico for firearms not all of these are going exclusively to cartels they sell them at 2-3x the price to whoever locally. Same in Canada, weapons smuggling is rampant because US truck drivers can stop off in a state that has no maximum buy limits and get a dozen handguns to sell at double the price once they cross the border.

Unless that truck driver is a resident of the state in question, no, they can't. Handguns can't be purchased unless you are a legal resident of the state. This applies to every state in the US.
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