Where is GM's product?
if we're talking about level 1 autonomy, then I guess you could say every car is their product? or for that matter, every care of every manufacturer is autonomous since it has a backup camera and lane correction =/
Navigant Research Leaderboard Report: Automated Driving
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#12Volvo, who is testing autonomous vehicles on public roads, is in the bottom half of the pack in terms of "execution." Okay...
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#13GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley bias.
Why do you see Tesla and Google as leading?
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#14Can this be right? Tesla and Waymo as contender and Ford and GM as leader? I mean Tesla autopilot v2 and Waymo (Google) are pretty impressive.
They are probably looking more broadly than just the tech. Ford has decent tech:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/28/14100278/ford-new-self-dr...
https://medium.com/@ford/building-fords-next-generation-auto...
But they also have the ability to be producing vehicles with that tech, at volume, in a couple of years. Waymo has essentially 0 manufacturing capacity and Tesla is still spooling up to get their annual production comparable to monthly production for GM or Ford.
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#15Understandably, this is focusing on the driving of traditional, 5(+/-) passenger vehicles. Is there a reason more work isn't done on driving buses and other high(er) occupancy vehicles? I would also imagine self driving a bus would be simpler, as unlike cars, they have mechanisms to change the flow of traffic themselves (some buses have stop signs, plus bus only lanes, bus stops, etc.).
The problem is not significantly easier for buses and the market is much smaller.
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#16I'm not sure I buy this. For one thing, the article makes no mention of the major pivot Ford (who they call a leader of the pack) just made in investing in Argo AI: http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/10/14579126/ford-argo-ai-one-...
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#17Understandably, this is focusing on the driving of traditional, 5(+/-) passenger vehicles. Is there a reason more work isn't done on driving buses and other high(er) occupancy vehicles? I would also imagine self driving a bus would be simpler, as unlike cars, they have mechanisms to change the flow of traffic themselves (some buses have stop signs, plus bus only lanes, bus stops, etc.).
Higher occupancy vehicles are already well amortized, and they don't really have parking problems. But it will happen eventually.
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#18GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley bias.
Why do you see Tesla and Google as leading?
Tesla I could see. They have deployed their automated driving to their Tesla cars, albeit with requirements that the driver hold the wheel. Plus, Tesla gets a lot of publicity, which could sway opinions.
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#19GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley bias.
Why do you see Tesla and Google as leading?
Google because of their publicly reported disengagement data - as low as once every 6,000 miles. Tesla because of their fleet approach to mapping and training. I agree that these two are at the front of the pack.
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#20Navigant's methodology is deeply flawed: http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/9024/who-is-really-1-in-self...