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Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Two thousand firearms are illegally exported from the United States to Mexico per day, fueling the country's catastrophic conflict as much as the billions of dollars of demand created by the miserable failure that is drug prohibition. At dawn in a parking garage, an off-camera seller hands over a small arsenal of bubble-wrapped assault rifles and boxes of high-caliber military ammunition new from the factory. Thunder rolls and lightning flashes as the smuggler's car, laden with weapons, crosses the border with no questions asked, barely even rolling to a stop. "Drugs go up," Beriain says, "guns come down."

Who needs CIA conspiracy theories?

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by morsch »

nl wrote: post #11

Two thousand firearms are illegally exported from the United States to Mexico per day, fueling the country's catastrophic conflict as much as the billions of dollars of demand created by the miserable failure that is drug prohibition. At dawn in a parking garage, an off-camera seller hands over a small arsenal of bubble-wrapped assault rifles and boxes of high-caliber military ammunition new from the factory. Thunder…

Lovely. He claims it's 2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year. A 2013 article puts the number at around 250000[1]. Time for a war on firearms, maybe?

[1] http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24...

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by SomeStupidPoint »

cyanotic wrote: post #6
djsumdog wrote: post #2

This article fails to talk about the cause of the situation in Mexico, and that is American involvement: http://fightthefuture.org/article/america-and-the-mexican-dr... In the article they mention that the three most dangerous countries for reporters are Mexico, Syria and Iraq. Well no shit, those are the three nations the CIA/United States are systematically destroying for corporate greed, or do you really believe A…

If you pay close attention, and consider the general rule about shitting on your own doorstep, Mexico's unchecked violence is China knocking. It's really not in American interests to have a wave of violence destabilizing a neighbor that shares a border. China wants the Panama Canal, or something like it. China also has lots of mind bending chemicals it can dump into America, to slow things down economically, while pr…

The US is running something like $100-200 billion through Mexico for drugs while simultaneously pumping tons of money into anti-drug policies (though, an order of magnitude or two less).

We're perfectly capable of destabilizing our own neighbors through unrealistic Puritanical policies, tyvm.

Mexico is a proxy war between US factions, as is the whole of drug trade in the Americas. It always has been.

For reference, Mexico only has a GDP of about $1 trillion, so hundreds of billions in drugs trafficking is a major economic influence on the country. The US invaded Iraq for about $100 billion per year.

Is it any surprise that giving cartels a level of funding required to wage a war, that accounts for a substantial portion of the host nation's GDP is going to mess the place up?

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by hourislate »

It's interesting why Canada has not suffered the same fate as Mexico? Could it have something to do with a Government that believes in the rule of law and a citizenry that respects that?

If I were to lay blame on anyone then I would have to lay it at the feet of the Mexican Government. There corruption has no boundaries. They bleed the Nation of not only it's wealth but it's future.

It's easy to play the victim and blame everyone else for your problems. Mexico has to take a hard look at it's system and find someone who is willing to deal with the corruption.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by yAnonymous »

morsch wrote: post #12
nl wrote: post #11

Two thousand firearms are illegally exported from the United States to Mexico per day, fueling the country's catastrophic conflict as much as the billions of dollars of demand created by the miserable failure that is drug prohibition. At dawn in a parking garage, an off-camera seller hands over a small arsenal of bubble-wrapped assault rifles and boxes of high-caliber military ammunition new from the factory. Thunder…

Lovely. He claims it's 2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year. A 2013 article puts the number at around 250000[1]. Time for a war on firearms, maybe? [1] http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24...

>2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year

Someone should tell them that firearms can be reloaded...

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by 1_2__3 »

morsch wrote: post #12
nl wrote: post #11

Two thousand firearms are illegally exported from the United States to Mexico per day, fueling the country's catastrophic conflict as much as the billions of dollars of demand created by the miserable failure that is drug prohibition. At dawn in a parking garage, an off-camera seller hands over a small arsenal of bubble-wrapped assault rifles and boxes of high-caliber military ammunition new from the factory. Thunder…

Lovely. He claims it's 2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year. A 2013 article puts the number at around 250000[1]. Time for a war on firearms, maybe? [1] http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24...

Is the US even manufacturing non-military firearms at a rate sufficient for 2k/day to slip out through smuggling? That seems extraordinarily unlikely.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by ceejayoz »

1_2__3 wrote: post #18
morsch wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lovely. He claims it's 2000 firearms per day, so more than 700000 per year. A 2013 article puts the number at around 250000[1]. Time for a war on firearms, maybe? [1] http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24...

Is the US even manufacturing non-military firearms at a rate sufficient for 2k/day to slip out through smuggling? That seems extraordinarily unlikely.

There are more guns in the US than residents. 2k/day is peanuts.

Re: Behind the Scenes of Mexico's Sinaloa Cartel

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

ceejayoz wrote: post #19
1_2__3 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the US even manufacturing non-military firearms at a rate sufficient for 2k/day to slip out through smuggling? That seems extraordinarily unlikely.

There are more guns in the US than residents. 2k/day is peanuts.

...except these are going to a very small group of people? And very likely not collectors or hunters.
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