Glimmer – Fast and light-weight UI components • Hacker News Board

Re: Glimmer – Fast and light-weight UI components

#131

Post by maxkwallace » Sat, Apr 01, 2017, 1:12 AM UTC

jbergens wrote: post #117

elwayman02 wrote: post #2

Glimmer is smaller and faster than React, with TypeScript supported natively. This is a game-changer for people who are looking for a lightweight rendering library that ships with great tooling support and a larger framework ecosystem behind it.

I think Glimmer/Ember have lost already. React is fast enough for most things and then there is Infernfo and Preact that are faster right now. If you mean a larger ecosystem as in number of libraries I would guess that the react ecosystem is 10x the size of Embers.

From my experience, the ecosystems are qualitatively different.

In Ember's, there's typically one community-sanctioned library that solves a particular problem, whereas React's tends to have more competing libraries. Like the frameworks, it's a tradeoff betw. customization and strong conventions. Doesn't make sense to compare based on number of libraries. Both approaches are valuable.

Re: Glimmer – Fast and light-weight UI components

#132

Post by spankalee » Sat, Apr 01, 2017, 6:04 AM UTC

JeremyBanks wrote: post #112

ergo14 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Polymer already fills that nieche I believe, except TS (it uses plain ES6).

Except for the lack of speed. And the lack of great tooling. And the lack of a large ecosystem. And the insane data model. I regret every moment I used Polymer.

Can you tell me anything in particular lacking in our tooling? I know we have a lot of issues open, and a long way to go, of course, but if there's something specific it'd be helpful.

Re: Glimmer – Fast and light-weight UI components

#133

Post by dustinfarris » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 5:48 PM UTC

modularfurnitur wrote: post #65

I cut my teeth using Ember a few years back, the whole community is amazing and does great work. Using react/redux now, and while I think it's the simplest and most pragmatic approach (the connect function changed the game), I think the api's over in clojurescript land, specifically re-frame are the best . It's conceptually the same as react/redux, but with a few more facilities for isolating side effects in actions,…

If you feel like giving Ember another whirl in the future, ember-redux is production-ready and has a comparable API to react-redux. (e.g. `connect`)

https://github.com/ember-redux/ember-redux