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Re: The Future of UI

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What i really hate about operating systems is that they the same as they were in the beginning. THe only thing that changed was the visual appearance. We still have a taskbar, a desktop,etc. Can't someone reinvent how operating systems work?

Re: The Future of UI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their incentive is to make it look cool, wow an audience, and bring more grant money to the MIT Media Lab. Contrast this with a company that puts the pieces together and ships a useful product - like the iPad UI... I always thought crazy concept cars were a waste of time and resources for car companies. If they instead focused on massive in-house iteration (like Apple's 10-3-1 prototyping process), better cars would…

> I always thought crazy concept cars were a waste of time and resources for car companies. If they instead focused on massive in-house iteration (like Apple's 10-3-1 prototyping process), better cars would be brought to market. Definitely. I've been watching the car industry for a few years now, and I'm still waiting for an "Apple" to emerge.

A great point, but car companies do iterate. The iteration just occurs over model years.

Take the widely acclaimed Chevy Malibu as an example. This started off as a pretty cruddy GM, but now it's reputedly competitive with Japanese models.

I'm sure that hard deadlines for production, very strict cost controls etc., conspire to impose a more rigid than agile process.

Perhaps, take a look at UK car companies in the 50's for a looser approach to car design. http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?ado15story1f.htm [Development of the Austin-Morris Mini]

Re: The Future of UI

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These new UI concepts are always awe inspiring, but what is really the benefit of using them? One of the most popular demonstrations is browsing through a bunch of photos on a huge screen with large gestures. While this looks quite impressive it's inaccurate when performing specific tasks (e.g. the color-selection planes in the video), the gestures are limited and you have to learn somewhat unintuitive ones apart fro…

Their incentive is to make it look cool, wow an audience, and bring more grant money to the MIT Media Lab. Contrast this with a company that puts the pieces together and ships a useful product - like the iPad UI... I always thought crazy concept cars were a waste of time and resources for car companies. If they instead focused on massive in-house iteration (like Apple's 10-3-1 prototyping process), better cars would…

Philip Greenspun had some pretty choice words on MIT Media Lab.

http://philip.greenspun.com/panda/suck

Scroll down to Example 3.

It sure looks like Greenspun's page, using simple formatting, has aged very very many times better than anything the MIT Media Lab would have been doing.

Re: The Future of UI

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These new UI concepts are always awe inspiring, but what is really the benefit of using them? One of the most popular demonstrations is browsing through a bunch of photos on a huge screen with large gestures. While this looks quite impressive it's inaccurate when performing specific tasks (e.g. the color-selection planes in the video), the gestures are limited and you have to learn somewhat unintuitive ones apart fro…

Their incentive is to make it look cool, wow an audience, and bring more grant money to the MIT Media Lab. Contrast this with a company that puts the pieces together and ships a useful product - like the iPad UI... I always thought crazy concept cars were a waste of time and resources for car companies. If they instead focused on massive in-house iteration (like Apple's 10-3-1 prototyping process), better cars would…

like the iPad UI

Imagine a 60 inch iPad hanging on the wall of your kitchen. Imagine being able to point and gesture instead of touching. Want to watch a movie while cooking? Switch back to the cook-"book" app when it's time to add the next ingredient, then go back to your film.

Re: The Future of UI

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post #16

These new UI concepts are always awe inspiring, but what is really the benefit of using them? One of the most popular demonstrations is browsing through a bunch of photos on a huge screen with large gestures. While this looks quite impressive it's inaccurate when performing specific tasks (e.g. the color-selection planes in the video), the gestures are limited and you have to learn somewhat unintuitive ones apart fro…

I don't know. Why did it take so long for touch screen interfaces to become huge when almost everyone loves them?

On the other hand, why are command line interfaces still the most efficient way for experts to interact with a system?

Re: The Future of UI

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He kind of fumbles on the question of "what is the killer app?" You'd think it would be on the tip of his tongue considering how long hes been working on this...

That said, there really needs to be more open source software to enable this front. I think we will really see some innovation once a hacker can take a $10 webcam and and open source lib and start creating software with these types of user interfaces.

Re: The Future of UI

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post #16

These new UI concepts are always awe inspiring, but what is really the benefit of using them? One of the most popular demonstrations is browsing through a bunch of photos on a huge screen with large gestures. While this looks quite impressive it's inaccurate when performing specific tasks (e.g. the color-selection planes in the video), the gestures are limited and you have to learn somewhat unintuitive ones apart fro…

There is benefit for a small subset of applications, applications which can gain from having 3d input. Most of the stuff he does in that demonstration is not of this category. But interfaces like that can be very nice for architecture (or computer assisted design) and 3d data visualization (medical or other). Gaming is also bound to be an interesting application. It will be nice to see what Microsoft comes up with for natal as well.

For general computing I am not sure if there is a use for this kind of interface, this stuff takes a lot of space and is long to setup while we are going the other way - towards smaller and more portable computers.

Also, let us not forget that gestural interfaces are very tiresome and it would be hard to use one for a long period of time.

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