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It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by throwaway55523 »

camus2 wrote: post #14
labster wrote: post #7

With the prospect of Calexit, I would definitely consider having California join Canada. Preexisting trade deals, membership in NATO and NAFTA, and a country used to bilingual culture would all be a great fit for us.

Calexit will of course never happen. Any secession attempt would automatically lead to yet another civil war. California would be crushed.

And Donald Trump will never be elected preside... oh wait.

In all seriousness, Trump becoming president shakes my belief in reality. It certainly has made me see that anything truly is possible.

The explaination that the universe is an elaborate simulation seems not just plausible, but really like the most likely explaination.

What seems impossible today is just another run of the mill fact of life tomorrow.

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by fraserharris »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #19
geofft wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calexit scares me because it's effectively abandoning the country; California can survive much more than the rest of the country can. It might be unfair to place that burden on California, sure, but it seem indisputable that leaving would destabilize the remaining United States in many ways - which won't be good for either Californians or anyone else. What's to stop New York, for instance, from also leaving once it r…

California's government is barely capable of keeping the state running even with federal assistance...

This is a myth. Due to various propositions restricting taxes, the California state government experiences significant booms and busts. When the busts do happen, the deficits are negligible relative to the size of California's $2.5T economy - the 7th largest in the world.

Sources: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/12/taxing-rich-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-16/brown-s-c...

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by vorg »

> while the Tories in Britain and the Republicans in the United States set about creating a neo-liberal Anglosphere – anti-egalitarian, avowedly Christian, pro-Big Business, pro-military – Scotland becomes part of Canada and helps lead the way to a more progressive world

Similar to "the Liberals in Australia and Republicans in the US set about creating a pro-big business, pro-military Anglosphere". Does that mean New Zealand should become part of Canada?

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by zhte415 »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #13

Makes more sense for Scotland to join Ireland & Northern Ireland in a gaelic confederation.

There is a movement (also includes Wales) with funding promoting this around the world.

They're quite discrete, and I have no idea of their scale, however it is a thing. And given the peaceful premise, could vastly eclipse the niche funding achieved through the 70s, 80s and 90s during The Troubles.

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by ygmelnikova »

labster wrote: post #7

With the prospect of Calexit, I would definitely consider having California join Canada. Preexisting trade deals, membership in NATO and NAFTA, and a country used to bilingual culture would all be a great fit for us.

As a Canadian, no thanks. As soon as something goes wrong with the relationship, you'll bail like you did on your other lover.

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by smcl »

titanomachy wrote: post #15
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #13

Makes more sense for Scotland to join Ireland & Northern Ireland in a gaelic confederation.

Or Scandinavia? Makes more sense geographically, at least.

The thing is "Scandanavia" isn't a country or any sort of meaningful confederation, more a neat way to describe a collection of geographically close countries. What's being proposed here is a country/union of some kind

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by spollo »

As a Canuck, I think this kind of thought experiment must be extremely offensive to the autonomy of Scottish people... I would be pissed if I read the same sort of thing coming from the U.S. towards Canada.

Nonetheless I love my Scottish brothers, if it were coming from you I wouldn't say no!

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by yellowapple »

labster wrote: post #7

With the prospect of Calexit, I would definitely consider having California join Canada. Preexisting trade deals, membership in NATO and NAFTA, and a country used to bilingual culture would all be a great fit for us.

Also, the same "CA" abbreviation would still work.

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by gumby »

geofft wrote: post #10
labster wrote: post #7

With the prospect of Calexit, I would definitely consider having California join Canada. Preexisting trade deals, membership in NATO and NAFTA, and a country used to bilingual culture would all be a great fit for us.

Calexit scares me because it's effectively abandoning the country; California can survive much more than the rest of the country can. It might be unfair to place that burden on California, sure, but it seem indisputable that leaving would destabilize the remaining United States in many ways - which won't be good for either Californians or anyone else. What's to stop New York, for instance, from also leaving once it r…

I worry about the refugees streaming from the rump USA into California, most of whom would not be prepared for the harsh Sierra conditions.

Re: It’s time for Scotland to find a new home in Canada

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Post by MarkMc »

camus2 wrote: post #14
labster wrote: post #7

With the prospect of Calexit, I would definitely consider having California join Canada. Preexisting trade deals, membership in NATO and NAFTA, and a country used to bilingual culture would all be a great fit for us.

Calexit will of course never happen. Any secession attempt would automatically lead to yet another civil war. California would be crushed.

So Americans will never amend the US constitution to allow a state to secede?
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