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Is that really true? For example, plumbing.
Sure, someone will argue that the outhouse makers are out of business. Or the well makers.
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Exactly. Although I don't think work in the car would be the same quality - if you use that time to handle emails it could be a big boost to get most emails addressed before you get to the office. I live about 12 miles from my office and going to the office removes about 1.5-2 hrs per day. Getting ready, 30 mins each way. I try to schedule phone calls for my commute but I don't always have calls to handle. I've worke…
I don't know. I've got a 2 hour commute each way. There's no way a company would accept my rolling in at 10AM and leaving at 4PM just because I'm working from 8-10 and 4-6 in my self-driving car. More than likely, self-driving cars will mean workers are still expected to get their 8-to-6 on-premesis face time, and then use their self-driving time to catch some shut-eye.
2h commute each way? I feel like there's ways to "fix" this using pre-21st century "technology". The issue seems to be one of how society is organized, especially geographically, not one of self-driving cars.
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#193> So if technological change were going to cause elimination of jobs, one presumes we would have seen it by now. ...considering this statement was delivered while the US Workforce Participation is at 30+ year lows while productivity and technological change has made significant inroads during that time (ex: Macintosh 512k vs. iPhone 7), I think he's missing a large chunk of the, uh, big picture. Then, contrast one of…
> Because in the United States, we should be working even while we are getting to work, because we don't work enough? No, because if you work-day was originally 8hrs of work + 2hrs of commute, it's now just 6hrs of work + 2hrs of work.
Newsflash: People already work in the car, I see it every fucking morning and they are a scourge to safety and insurance premiums. Adding a self-driving car and infrastructure is adding a bunch of overhead you're not even stopping to consider. Zoom out a little bit and Andreessen's vision of the future is the opening sequence to the Lego Movie. Shit you not.
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#194I do like the idea of almost a rolling office. I've always wanted a sort of vagabond life fueled by tech. There so much out in the world and so many people. It's a shame that we're often stuck in the same places for such long periods of time. If I become a remote/work-from-home/smb-owner I'd love to just being a self-driving car doing stuff on the go and also changing where I am all the time.
Does nobody else get car sick when reading or looking at a screen in a moving car?
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I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job, especially when it becomes possible to do your job on the way.
> I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job I agree: I put 200,000+ miles on each of three cars, mostly commuting to work. Soooo, that was a lot of money, all after tax -- buy the car, usually on time so that there was interest, pay for insurance, fuel, maintenance, tolls, parking. All those expenses should have been pre-tax money, "unreimbursed business expenses" like, say, professional text books at…
Except you chose to live that far away. I live right next to my office and it takes me less than 10 minutes to get to work.
Should I be compensated for my high rent that comes with living downtown?
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That's right, everytime there's been progress there have been negative externalities of the tech produced for the progress. It's nearly impossible to have both, ie, progress and no negative consequences. So which would you rather have?
Is that really true? For example, plumbing.
Early plumbing was often made of lead pipes which caused some pretty serious negative externalities such as brain damage.
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I only came to HN somewhat recently, around 2 years ago, but I've started to notice a very major change in the culture of this forum lately. There is so much vitriol and blanket insults being levied at anyone and everyone. The linked article is almost always a sideshow, and simply acts as a prelude for the battle in the comments section. A battle which has little to do with what the article itself says, and is simply…
Emotions are flying high in the comments, because the world (including the virtual one) is changing fast(er) and not in the best direction. There is also great disconnect between the tech billionaires and the real problems in the world. The numbers they base their worldview on are carefully curated and the story is of course that 'things are greater than ever', but the rest of the people (especially outside the US) a…
> Compared to 'real' problems that the world faces
What problems are more 'real' than 1 million people dying each year from car related injuries?
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#199> So if technological change were going to cause elimination of jobs, one presumes we would have seen it by now. ...considering this statement was delivered while the US Workforce Participation is at 30+ year lows while productivity and technological change has made significant inroads during that time (ex: Macintosh 512k vs. iPhone 7), I think he's missing a large chunk of the, uh, big picture. Then, contrast one of…
Isn't it a... good thing, that workforce participation is down, assuming other indicators of economic health are holding steady/increasing steadily? Don't we, some day, want to get workforce participation down to zero, while maintaining other prosperity metrics? Also, I believe the theory is (assuming we even still have 8 hour work days), you work an hour in the car, work 6 at work, work an hour driving home.
We want working hours to shrink not participation.... either see shorter working days or fewer days per week.
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Exactly. Although I don't think work in the car would be the same quality - if you use that time to handle emails it could be a big boost to get most emails addressed before you get to the office. I live about 12 miles from my office and going to the office removes about 1.5-2 hrs per day. Getting ready, 30 mins each way. I try to schedule phone calls for my commute but I don't always have calls to handle. I've worke…
I don't know. I've got a 2 hour commute each way. There's no way a company would accept my rolling in at 10AM and leaving at 4PM just because I'm working from 8-10 and 4-6 in my self-driving car. More than likely, self-driving cars will mean workers are still expected to get their 8-to-6 on-premesis face time, and then use their self-driving time to catch some shut-eye.
Wasn't hard for me. I worked on the bus into the office, and was available online, and it was accepted.