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Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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This effect always seems to come with popularity. Once upon a time, Slashdot had some amazingly insightful discussions, leading to a growth in popularity, which led to increased noise. That noise led to increased cynicism and eventually burnout. The same thing has sadly happened to every popular tech news site I know of. The secret is to keep searching for a new place to have high quality discussions. You never know…

I would disagree with HN having "quality discussion". I've honestly never seen dang come down on someone where I agreed with it. I've seen him moderate people because they're posting too much "anti-this or anti-that". Not because of their behavior, but because he didn't like what they were posting. And this community is aware that dang will do that, so you watch them flag ideas that absolutely have no reason for bein…

dang has come down on me before over my behaviour and I've had to agree with him in all cases that I was acting like a jerk.

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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I only came to HN somewhat recently, around 2 years ago, but I've started to notice a very major change in the culture of this forum lately. There is so much vitriol and blanket insults being levied at anyone and everyone. I am a woman. My experience of the forum has vastly improved during that time. I am not saying that HN does not have problems. When I arrived, it had a real sense of community that it seems to most…

I am a man so obviously I've not had the same experiences as you with regards to feeling excluded earlier on but I'm kind of mixed in my overall feelings. I've been here pretty much the same length of time as you and I agree with you that some stuff has definitely improved. Any topic dealing with women or minorities of any sort use to be truly dreadful places to view the comments in. Now they are just kind of dreadfu…

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Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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That's right, everytime there's been progress there have been negative externalities of the tech produced for the progress. It's nearly impossible to have both, ie, progress and no negative consequences. So which would you rather have?

Is that really true? For example, plumbing.

Sure, someone will argue that the outhouse makers are out of business. Or the well makers.

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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Exactly. Although I don't think work in the car would be the same quality - if you use that time to handle emails it could be a big boost to get most emails addressed before you get to the office. I live about 12 miles from my office and going to the office removes about 1.5-2 hrs per day. Getting ready, 30 mins each way. I try to schedule phone calls for my commute but I don't always have calls to handle. I've worke…

I don't know. I've got a 2 hour commute each way. There's no way a company would accept my rolling in at 10AM and leaving at 4PM just because I'm working from 8-10 and 4-6 in my self-driving car. More than likely, self-driving cars will mean workers are still expected to get their 8-to-6 on-premesis face time, and then use their self-driving time to catch some shut-eye.

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Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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> "Self-driving cars, for example, could potentially put 5 million people involved in transportation jobs out of work....." On a work day, NYC subway provides 6 million trips. Think of all of the car drivers it is displacing. And then there are the buses! And that is in NYC alone. Just think of all of the drivers mass transit has already displaced throughout the nation! Then there is intercity transit: think of all o…

> On a work day, NYC subway provides 6 million trips. Think of all of the car drivers it is displacing. And then there are the buses! And that is in NYC alone. Just think of all of the drivers mass transit has already displaced throughout the nation! I think if you read history, you'll find that, overall, the automobile disrupted and reduced the size of the passenger rail industry, and public transportation in genera…

I was being sarcastic: The pendulum is swinging back the other direction....

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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I don't know. I've got a 2 hour commute each way. There's no way a company would accept my rolling in at 10AM and leaving at 4PM just because I'm working from 8-10 and 4-6 in my self-driving car. More than likely, self-driving cars will mean workers are still expected to get their 8-to-6 on-premesis face time, and then use their self-driving time to catch some shut-eye.

I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job, especially when it becomes possible to do your job on the way.

> I feel like getting to your job should be part of the job

I agree:

I put 200,000+ miles on each of three cars, mostly commuting to work. Soooo, that was a lot of money, all after tax -- buy the car, usually on time so that there was interest, pay for insurance, fuel, maintenance, tolls, parking. All those expenses should have been pre-tax money, "unreimbursed business expenses" like, say, professional text books at least long were.

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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So, Andreessen is talking about "ideas" -- hmm ....

His ideas seem to be (A) some large changes in the economy and society from (B) some exploitations of largely existing computer technology to meet some want/need previously unnoticed or infeasible to meet.

But, even for just (A) and (B), there is potentially MUCH more potential in ideas that Andreessen seems to ignore.

An example was Xerox: Copying paper documents was important. The main means was carbon paper. Xerox did quite a lot of engineering research based on some early research, IIRC, at Battelle. The result was one of the biggest business success stories of all time.

Andreessen doesn't discuss research ideas -- how to have them, pursue them, apply them, evaluate them, etc.

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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Motion you feel but don't see is the problem. Maybe a translucent display?

Or an active suspension that cancels out all bumps. This is actually my fantasy for self-driving cars; such a suspension is relatively expensive, but if cars are shared and autonomous, each car can be more costly.

It's not just the bumps, though, it's the acceleration. The car is inevitably going to speed up, slow down, and change direction, and I don't think there's any way of canceling that out. I'm almost certain I couldn't read in even a perfectly-suspended car without feeling sick.

Re: Marc Andreessen: “Take the Ego Out of Ideas”

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Is that really true? For example, plumbing.

Sure, someone will argue that the outhouse makers are out of business. Or the well makers.

As the owner of property with a well, the well makers are making bank. Your ideas of what is outdated are kind of outdated.
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