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If your former employer releases salary information without your consent, sue them into the ground.
What's the law that says they can't do that?
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New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
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Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#152The analogy is not perfect, but all the time people like to know how much a house or car sold for in the past, or how much a stock traded for the in past, etc. Seems like useful data. Now, I'm not advocating for or against this particular question, but I sure do hope there is data collected and studied on the effect this has in NY before anyone jumps to conclusions. I feel it's too easy to have a knee-jerk reaction o…
The analogy is completely broken. People aren't houses, cars, or stock certificates. The information that is pertinent might be references from former coworkers - can they do the job you are hiring them for? Asking for the previous value of the person as if they were any other commodity is nonsensical. There's not an inherent price to the person, and a higher or lower salary says more about where they have worked (which you can see on the resume or ask about) than how well they have worked (very generally).
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
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you will see...
so no answer? If you have a reason I'd like to hear it. I cant think of a problem with this cause it makes the information disparity between employees and employers more equal, but Id like to hear any counterargument
i don't think the law will improve the information disparity. I think employers will quickly find ways around it as they always have and it will promptly be business as usual.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hijacking this for visibility. If the recruiter asks repeatedly, a trick that I learned is to answer that it's in your employee confidentiality agreement not to discuss the terms of your employment. It's arguably a true statement as well (in case you were concerned about telling a white lie)--your employer could be considering your salary as confidential because they obviously haven't disclosed it publicly, so you ar…
If it was true you couldn't disclose salary it would make lots of things really difficult like getting a loan.
It sort of doesn't matter if it's legally true, it's an easy out of the question which is the goal. If the other side pushes harder you can simply assert that's your reading of the terms of the contract and you aren't about to risk breaching your contract.
Even better, after stating the above use it as a segue-way into them disclosing the range, e.g. since I'm not a liberty to share, perhaps you can tell me (the salary range | benefits package ).
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#155I never answer questions about my past or expected salary, not to employers and not to recruiters. Most employers don't ask, and the few that have (perhaps by having a part of an employment form ask for previous salary) have never made my leaving that information out an issue. Most recruiters, if they even ask, respect my decision not to talk about it, but I've been pressed hard on this by a handful of recruiters, an…
Has anyone run into issues for sharing a current salary that anchors the discussion too high? I could see how an employer might pass on a candidate who's actually interested in the job, just because they know they can't match what the candidate is currently making and it's likely a waste of time to spend hours evaluating someone who's making 50k more than what you could ever offer. Or is this purely theoretical and n…
Yes, though that generally falls into the category of "problems you want to have."
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#156That is fantastic news!
I recently interviewed with a prominent Drupal company, Forum One, and was shocked that they not only asked for my previous salary, but previous 3 salaries and also wanted me to verify them with pay stubs! I told them no and the interview stalled after that. That was a sad day, I really wanted to work with them but what they asked for was unacceptable.
They were not in New York but I welcome this law everywhere.
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Careful!! There's quite a few ways to verify past salary. Specially some employers report employment information to private databases and your potential employer runs a "employment report," like banks run a credit report, as part of a mandatory background check. To see if you lied. Of course, they can't do that without your permission but agreeing to a background check is a condition of employment. The database i am…
The best way to see if your company is willing to give out salary information to random verifiers, is to ask HR yourself. In most cases they would not give out that sensitive information unless they have a written consent specifically stating that you allow salary information to be given.
It's not as sensitive than your credit history which is bought and sold by credit bureaus. It's also not as sensitive as all sorts of public records like foreclosures, personal bankruptcies, and criminal records.
Anyways, its likely subject to the FCRA which means you can get a copy of your own report once a year to see what it contains.
EDIT: Here you go, you can request a copy right here, https://www.theworknumber.com/Employees/DataReport/index.asp
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#158I never answer questions about my past or expected salary, not to employers and not to recruiters. Most employers don't ask, and the few that have (perhaps by having a part of an employment form ask for previous salary) have never made my leaving that information out an issue. Most recruiters, if they even ask, respect my decision not to talk about it, but I've been pressed hard on this by a handful of recruiters, an…
> Most employers don't ask, and the few that
> have have never made my leaving that information
> out an issue.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Geemany you are allowed to lie to any question the employer doesn't have the right to ask (e.g. Are you pregnant?)
Did not know that. Is asking for past salary in that category as well? I've been asked about past salary many times.
I think it depends if it's relevant (see https://www.verdi.de/service/fragen-antworten/++co++61c52da6... for example). I guess a court would judge on a case by case basis.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#160I interviewed at a big phone/ISP company a few months ago in MA.
They would not make me an offer unless I shared my past W2 with them for them to make sure my past salary was what I claimed it was.
Needless to say, I laughed at them and walked away.