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Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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> From my experience "symbol X is offensive" doesn't actually help distinguish between malicious and non-malicious people because the thing that makes someone malicious is their actions and views, not the iconography they use to express said actions and views. I completely agree with this. I think most content creators make a conscious effort to make their intent known through the work. For Example, movies like "Ingl…

> Perhaps a more poignant current example is youtube personality JonTron. [...] I think it's at the very least disingenuous to claim that his recent remarks are racist (the more we use that word, the more watered down it becomes). And it's also sad that people assume that your politics cannot change either. My reading of the situation is that he was just doing a thought-experiment and asking why multiculturalism is o…

The basic point I'm trying to make is that it really depends on intent and that intent can be difficult to accurately determine.

I agree that a zero-tolerance total ban is not right and not justified. Because intelligent respectful conversation is the only way to "unpack" that "cultural baggage".

The problem is, when that conversation isn't clearly respectful and intelligent it just isn't helping and only adds noise. It is to our benefit overall to filter out that noise.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #277

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> What community does the swastika represent and what are their ideals? Honestly, in this case it was probably mostly representing rebellious teenagers who love to offend the easily offended, not nazis or nazi symphatizers.

Yeah exactly, it's all just edgy trolling from 4chan. When did trolling suddenly become equivalent to being a Nazi?

It's not the equivalent of being a nazi and I don't think anyone's perception was "We have to ban these literally goose stepping nazi's from our reddit website"

The just saw exactly what you described. Edgy trolls posting nazi stuff.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #277

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Yeah exactly, it's all just edgy trolling from 4chan. When did trolling suddenly become equivalent to being a Nazi?

It's not the equivalent of being a nazi and I don't think anyone's perception was "We have to ban these literally goose stepping nazi's from our reddit website" The just saw exactly what you described. Edgy trolls posting nazi stuff.

> I don't think anyone's perception was "We have to ban these literally goose stepping nazi's from our reddit website"

You might say that, but for some reason a lot of people appear to believe that pepe and milk are symbols of white supremacy and that YouTubers making edgy jokes are suddenly literal Nazis. Actual mainstream publications are publishing this crap.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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If that's the case, I have to say that for the political views of many people, an LGBT flag is as disrespectful or dangerous to society as a swastika can be to any individual or group. Being unable to see that just proves further that reddit admins are biased. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything; everybody has their own views and trying to change them over the internet is a waste of time. So this off-topic…

I'm glad you brought it back to my original point so I didn't have to: > are you actually comparing Nazi symbolism to the LGBT flag? Again, you're comparing a symbol for a culture/organization that committed _genocide_, to the symbol of a group that was a victim of that genocide. Then you have the audacity to say they could be similarly offensive? Take your thinly-veiled fascism elsewhere.

Okay, what the fuck does this have to do with fascism?

I'm really annoyed with the overuse of that term. Not every asshole who is wrong is a fascist.

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