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Have you really had that experience in NYC? I've lived in Brooklyn for 10 years and have only once had a cab refuse to drive me home.
Perhaps you haven't committed the crime of living in a poor neighborhood or looking like a minority.
Based on personal experiences this isn't surprising. When I was in college in a small town in the late 00's, many friends and acquaintances would drive across town after heavy drinking. 10-15 minutes, straight roads, little traffic. Other than not going out, or not getting home, you didn't have many options. It was a hour long walk or a $20-40 cab ride, if you could get one. I was recently back in town for a wedding…
It has always amazed me how casually people drink and drive in some countries; the US especially springs to mind. Over here, drinking and driving is an extremely shameful and embarrassing thing to do. I would say it's on par with hitting a child. You just don't do it, not to save 20 bucks, or to save you from walking an hour.
We don't know where you are, you need to tell us where "here" is.
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Hahahaha, was it that obvious? I grew up around here and graduated from one of the four schools (gotta stay a little anonymous) in 2009. I'm not sure why I'm still here, really.
It was a little obvious but probably only for someone who lived there.
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Still no excuse.
People downvoting me obviously haven't had anyone close killed by a drunk driver. Disgusting. Simple solution if you can't get home without driving: don't drink.
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Thinking? I'm not thinking it is ok! No no, I'm just saying why people are idiotic enough to do this. The BAC level now for Utah is .05. It isn't like all of the US states are slouching. Of course, Utah is different from the deep south.
It's actually still .08, not .05 (yet). It will be in about 1.75 years from now if there's no successful repeal before then. Given the LDS majority in the state, good chance it will stand in some form.
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I disagree with that number. You're saying that 1 in 100,000 people don't get home safely while drink driving. That's 10 times lower than the yearly death rate from simply driving. And 1/3 road deaths are caused by drink driving.
My number is wrong, I just made it up. I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. My point is that if you didn't care about moral hazard, the odds are overwhelming that you will make it home safe even if you drive drunk. I'm not condoning, just explaining drunk driving logic. That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still…
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A ten to fifteen minute walk is less than a mile, unless heavy drinking somehow speeds one up. Where does that distance cost $20 in a cab? The NYC taxi & limousine website shows one mile in Manhattan as costing about $6.30--$5 for the fare, .80 for MTA and improvement surcharges, .50 for night surcharge. Edit: My mistake, misread the text.
NYC actually has far cheaper cabs than most US cities (who don't have Uber) because the market is extremely different. High demand and high supply 24/7 as opposed to surges. The pricing is also more tightly regulated iirc (haven't looked into the specifics). When I took the train up to Albany, I wanted a cab to a coffee shop across the bridge. It was a half hour walk vs a 7min car ride. The cab was flat rate into the…
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That's like saying Hacker News can't be considered a nice place to discuss things, until they employ everyone who contributes to the discussion.
If someone starts posting threats or illegal material as discussion comments, wouldn't Hacker News be responsible for deleting it or else they would face penalties? Uber argues they shouldn't face penalties when an Uber driver does something illegal since they are "independent contractors".
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My number is wrong, I just made it up. I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. My point is that if you didn't care about moral hazard, the odds are overwhelming that you will make it home safe even if you drive drunk. I'm not condoning, just explaining drunk driving logic. That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still…
> I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. But it isn't the .08 drunk drivers killing people, it is the .16+ BAC drunk drivers killing people.
Sure, you feel great after a few drinks, that is kinda the point. But you are still impaired. Driving is not an activity where confidence helps. Reaction time matters and that goes down from your first drink.
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My number is wrong, I just made it up. I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. My point is that if you didn't care about moral hazard, the odds are overwhelming that you will make it home safe even if you drive drunk. I'm not condoning, just explaining drunk driving logic. That 1/3 road deaths is artificially inflated because if you had 1 drink and well under the legal limit it still…
> I think that actually number is more like 99.95% for a person with a .08. But it isn't the .08 drunk drivers killing people, it is the .16+ BAC drunk drivers killing people.