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Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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During my first visit to the USA, back in 2007, I was shocked at casual drinking and driving habits of my co-workers. They were fine with having 5-6 bottles of beer and a couple of shots and then drop me in the hotel before driving home. Fortunately they don't have to do that anymore.

I think this might be related to another complaint you often hear about: the drinking culture in general. Where I live in Europe it's normal to have designated drivers at parties and it's socially unacceptable to pressure them into drinking. If someone offers you a drink, "I'm driving" is a no-questions-asked way to turn it down (same goes for "I'm pregnant" or "I'm a recovering alcoholic"). That doesn't seem to be t…

"I'm on antibiotics" is another excuse.

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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post #134

Perhaps that should be phrased "the availability of drivers using a ride sharing platform has helped reduce drunk driving accidents." If Uber doesn't accept drivers as employees and isn't responsible for their actions, it shouldn't be credited with their collective contributions to a safer society.

That's like saying Hacker News can't be considered a nice place to discuss things, until they employ everyone who contributes to the discussion.

If someone starts posting threats or illegal material as discussion comments, wouldn't Hacker News be responsible for deleting it or else they would face penalties? Uber argues they shouldn't face penalties when an Uber driver does something illegal since they are "independent contractors".

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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>It has always amazed me how casually people drink and drive in some countries; the US especially springs to mind. Drinking and driving is still very taboo in the US. It's just that most areas of the country require an automobile to get around and most people have a car. One more thing, no one should be surprised that people drink and drive anywhere. People make all sorts of terrible decisions when they're intoxicate…

> is still very taboo in the US Depends on where you are. In rural America it's borderline socially acceptable (unfortunately).

In many places in rural America, it's borderline socially acceptable to drive while drinking. See "Road sodas"...

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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Uber's PR team would be rejoicing right now! It is great that technological advances have both positive and negative effects, and some times, the positive effects saves a ton of lives.

Ummm... I'm sure Uber's PR team had absolutely nothing to do with this article ;)

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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post #65

Based on personal experiences this isn't surprising. When I was in college in a small town in the late 00's, many friends and acquaintances would drive across town after heavy drinking. 10-15 minutes, straight roads, little traffic. Other than not going out, or not getting home, you didn't have many options. It was a hour long walk or a $20-40 cab ride, if you could get one. I was recently back in town for a wedding…

It has always amazed me how casually people drink and drive in some countries; the US especially springs to mind. Over here, drinking and driving is an extremely shameful and embarrassing thing to do. I would say it's on par with hitting a child. You just don't do it, not to save 20 bucks, or to save you from walking an hour.

An interesting analogy because a lot of people in the USA also think it's good to hit (spank) children.

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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The study was originally published in January. This article is being published in April. I subscribe to the Economist and I enjoy it, but I am cynical about why this is being published now, amidst significant negative publicity for Uber.

Thank you. It's just too convenient a time isn't it?

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post #130

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And like you know, all the other things he listed: > it's easy to call one from a crowded/loud place, you know how much it will cost, they don't use cash, they know where you are, and you don't have to give directions. p.s., why do people like you want to hate on ride sharing services so much? Is it just that nothing can ever be good enough in your mind?

> And like you know, all the other things he listed: >> it's easy to call one from a crowded/loud place, you know how much it will cost, they don't use cash, they know where you are, and you don't have to give directions. Subjective advantages which are not exclusive nor intrinsic to ride sharing services. They can be replicated by anyone in the industry if they are deemed as valuable to their business. I never denie…

Even at the prices charged by traditional taxi companies, the service and convenience provided by Uber or Lyft is such an order of magnitude better that they should be viable competition.

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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post #133

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in some place drunk riding a bike might have similar repercussions [incl. criminal charges above certain levels].

In Poland riding a bike while drunk results in losing your driving licence.

Only if you're caught driving it on the road.

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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post #133

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in some place drunk riding a bike might have similar repercussions [incl. criminal charges above certain levels].

In Poland riding a bike while drunk results in losing your driving licence.

And if you don't have a driver's licence?

Re: Ride-hailing apps may help to curb drunk driving

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In Poland riding a bike while drunk results in losing your driving licence.

And if you don't have a driver's licence?

See, this is where the intention of the law sort of falls apart - because in that case, you are only given a fine. So the punishment is disproportional towards people who have a driving licence. People who don't have one are punished a lot less for the exact same offence.
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