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Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by kbenson »

scrame wrote: post #217
kbenson wrote: post #34

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> how on earth someone choose rpm over first class Superior Debian package system So, what makes the Debian package system superior? Having built multiple specs in the past, but not any debs, I'm curious. Given that you can often convert debs to RPMs and vice-versa, and can use the different package managers on either type of repository, it's not obvious where one has any specific benefit.

its not that .deb is a better than format than .rpm, but apt is better than yum, as a dependency manager.

I've actually never found that to be true, mostly due to a wird cognitive disconnect between the desired outcome and the actions you need to perform.

Either use separate commands for different actions, or distinguish actions with arguments, but don't do both. E.g. apt-get install, apt list, apt-file update.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by flukus »

davidw wrote: post #50
iamacynic wrote: post #37

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it's bad only if that's the company you want to take to $1 billion scale. what if you don't have hot shot VC buddies from princeton, and didn't go to stanford, and need to make $1m in cash to do your real business idea? all of a sudden doing paid features for an open source project or doing consulting sounds like a fantastic idea because that will get you to $1m, almost guaranteed (if you're generally capable) hint:…

Consulting is not a great business in a lot of ways, and 1 million is not at all easy unless you're 1) someplace where that's not a lot of money, or 2) you're famous. I would heartily suggest avoiding it, as it's also not scalable even at a small size. Look at the kind of stuff the 'micropreneur' guys do, like patio11's bingo thing. That was small (I agree with you there) but still something that once running, kept m…

I dunno, IBM and the likes (sun, oracle) seems to make a fortune off consulting, to the point where they've just about removed themselves from actually making stuff.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by flukus »

rsync wrote: post #82
ElijahLynn wrote: post #49

Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago. Absolutely love working for this company! Especially that most engineers use GNU/Linux of some sort. Great to see this!

"Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago." I have something I'd like to ask you ... Two years ago, at the RSA convention, I ran into a redhat employee and was chatting about (unix) and I mentioned that I was the founder of rsync.net with the expectation that he knew exactly who we were and what we did. He had no idea and had never heard of us . I felt like I had uncovered an enormous flaw in my outreach and…

You aren't exactly a household name. Does it matter if random people haven't heard of you though? The important thing is people looking for offsite backups can find you.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by kerneldeveloper »

danilocesar wrote: post #128
flamedoge wrote: post #114

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What about Canonical?

Unlike most of Linux fans imagine, Canonical and Red Hat don't compete that much in the corporate world.

Besides that, from the open source perspective, RedHat's contribution is greater than Canonical， especially the linux kernel.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by mintplant »

fnj wrote: post #204
mintplant wrote: post #200

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Automattic is the WordPress shop. They develop WordPress and run WordPress.com. There aren't any recent revenue numbers available, but indirectly powering ~25% of the internet is nothing to sneeze at.

How much of the internet's destructive hacking do they "power"?

Quite a bit, I imagine, but unfortunately security does not necessarily correlate to popularity.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by FooBarWidget »

scrame wrote: post #217
kbenson wrote: post #34

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> how on earth someone choose rpm over first class Superior Debian package system So, what makes the Debian package system superior? Having built multiple specs in the past, but not any debs, I'm curious. Given that you can often convert debs to RPMs and vice-versa, and can use the different package managers on either type of repository, it's not obvious where one has any specific benefit.

its not that .deb is a better than format than .rpm, but apt is better than yum, as a dependency manager.

To be fair, there is one thing that .deb is better at than .rpm: support for optional/recommended dependencies.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by jhasse »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #191
jhasse wrote: post #107

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The advantage of Ubuntu LTS is that you can upgrade it to a non-LTS. Also good for branding that both are "Ubuntu". I'd love if CentOS / RHEL would become Fedora LTS.

I disagree. Red Hat's brand is pretty powerful in the corporate linux world. If anything, Fedora should be renamed to RHEL Unstable or something.

That would also work :)

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by dredmorbius »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #165
milesrout wrote: post #162

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>You can download it, inspect it, and run it... but you need a paid license to keep it running. Then it is not open source. Open source has a strict definition, from the OSI.

Why are they the arbiter of what is and isn't open source? That kind of gatekeeping seems contrary to their entire purpose.

Because that is literally the single and only reason for their existence: to define and protect the Open Source Definition.

(I'm not sure if it's still a Service Mark or not, though it was at one time.)

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by dredmorbius »

schoen wrote: post #3

More than 15 years ago, I worked for a Linux services company that competed with Red Hat. We sometimes saw them or were invited to see them rather negatively (as the competition), and I particularly remember that an ad agency that wanted our business once shipped us a box containing a burnt red hat (!). Time has shown that Red Hat really knows what they're doing, on many different levels, and they're the most success…

I had one of your business cards for a long time.

I may still have the shards it finally splintered into one day as I was rescuing a system....

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Post by dredmorbius »

a3n wrote: post #99
knieveltech wrote: post #40

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Seriously. Weekend long marathons of dependency chasing (in the snow, uphill both ways) to finally get config/make/make install to run were not only a thing but disturbingly commonplace. These kids don't know how good they've got it. God I feel old.

It feels so good to not have to look at that book with the guy on a horse, to get networking going every time I installled a new distro, or sometimes upgrading. Especially because I usually didn't know what I was doing to fix the issue, I didn't even know what I was looking for. Thanks to everyone who did read that book and others cover to cover (or wrote them), so that my linux install just works. https://en.wikiped…

That's no horse, that's a nag!
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