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Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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To me, anybody who argues that PBS should be cut loses all credibility as a budget hawk (if they had any to begin with). PBS is an incredibly valuable public-private partnership. For every dollar the federal government spends, two or three listeners listeners voluntarily contribute a dollar of their own money, much of which goes to their local community. Other programs should be looking to public broadcasting as a fi…

PBS is in a dying industry. Television. Perhaps another equally good public-private partnership will arrive. The Khan Academy and Wikipedia are something like that.

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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How come PBS cannot fund itself? And make profit and revenue? Just curious.

I think Discovery Channel and History Channel are really good counterarguments nowadays to the idea that quality educational TV could be done for profit. Edit: beaten by everybody in the universe ... :)

Just look at the shitty state of affairs today.

History Channel: "Ghosts did it" Discovery Channel: "Aliens did it"

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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I implore you to spend an hour consuming public media and then another hour consuming "regular" commercial broadcasting. There's an unmistakable difference between the commercials employed in commercial broadcasts vs public broadcasts. I'm sure you can find some reduction of the concept of "commercial" that fits both commercial broadcast advertisements and underwriting posts in public broadcasts, but you'd be missing…

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Have you tried any of PBS Digital Studio Channels on Youtube?

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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To me, anybody who argues that PBS should be cut loses all credibility as a budget hawk (if they had any to begin with). PBS is an incredibly valuable public-private partnership. For every dollar the federal government spends, two or three listeners listeners voluntarily contribute a dollar of their own money, much of which goes to their local community. Other programs should be looking to public broadcasting as a fi…

PBS is in a dying industry. Television. Perhaps another equally good public-private partnership will arrive. The Khan Academy and Wikipedia are something like that.

Yes, we should all get our under ten year old kids a computer and let them loose on Wikipedia. I'm sure they'll learn tons of stuff and never get into any trouble whatsoever.

There's a place for things like PBS. It's inexpensive, it's curated, and it's hard to mess around with.

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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It probably could fund itself and make a profit. But the whole point is that the country is choosing to invest in providing quality media content in the form of high quality detailed reporting and educational content because it's critical for the success of our nation. I think even the most partisan American would have a hard time looking at commercial media and declaring it a resounding success - educational channel…

I remember how twenty years ago, the argument was made that the high quality of educational programming on the Discovery and History Channels made PBS redundant. I didn't agree even then, but at the time there really were some pretty good stuff on those commercial channels. But it turns out that shows about science and history don't make as much money as nonsense about ancient aliens and so the commercial stations st…

Plus, their shows are made for a 3rd grade level of understanding. None of their science shows have even a hint of math

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Care to back up your claim at all instead of just traipsing in and saying "no"? I watch PBS every day and they are most certainly not commercials as your parent comment says. They generally are 10 seconds at most, have maybe two sentences about the company, and show the logo. Usually one of those sentences is "Company xxx is proud to support PBS".

>They generally are 10 seconds at most, have maybe two sentences about the company, and show the logo. aka a commercial.

ad·ver·tise·ment

ˈadvərˌtīzmənt,ədˈvərdizmənt/

noun

a notice or announcement in a public medium promoting a product, service, or event or publicizing a job vacancy.

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As long as said 10-second intervals don't promote a product, service or event, and they simply mention that Company X supports PBS, they aren't advertisements.

https://www.google.com/search?&rls=en&q=define:advertisement...

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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To me, anybody who argues that PBS should be cut loses all credibility as a budget hawk (if they had any to begin with). PBS is an incredibly valuable public-private partnership. For every dollar the federal government spends, two or three listeners listeners voluntarily contribute a dollar of their own money, much of which goes to their local community. Other programs should be looking to public broadcasting as a fi…

Not that I'm pro-cut, but to a budget hawk any spending is too much spending regardless of matched contribution. Edit: Keep on downvoting, it's not going to change the opposition's persepctive.

That's a straw man of a budget hawk. Real budget hawks are more reasonable.

Re: Save PBS. It makes us safer

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PBS doesn't have commercials? Because I'm pretty sure it does.

PBS has underwriting spots that are only shown between programs and are subject to more restrictions than commercials: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwriting_spot No programming is interrupted, and the only marketing content is typically something like "Brand Flakes is happy to support PBS".

In the Bay Area, at least, shows will have multiple supporter mentions which are basically brand endorsements, a la, "Brought to you by ADM, Supermarket to the World! And GE, bringing good things to life."
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