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It's this mindset that makes me want to support Red Hat as a company. As good as the Fedora 25 experience has been for me, I'd love to see Linux laptop vendors (especially Dell) make it an installed option soon. Maybe CentOS laptops would make more sense for them from a sheer "stability for support sake" experience.
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The Apache Software Foundation is in no way shape or form a business. It's a non-profit with maybe 1 or 2 full-time people (last I recall) and tons of people who commit to projecs.
You're literally reiterating what I said.
Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago. Absolutely love working for this company! Especially that most engineers use GNU/Linux of some sort. Great to see this!
"Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago." I have something I'd like to ask you ... Two years ago, at the RSA convention, I ran into a redhat employee and was chatting about (unix) and I mentioned that I was the founder of rsync.net with the expectation that he knew exactly who we were and what we did. He had no idea and had never heard of us . I felt like I had uncovered an enormous flaw in my outreach and…
It's not a bad thing though. It allows them to be super-expert at whatever it is they know and leverage that knowledge to assist customers.
So someone who is deep into encryption may not necessarily know what Rsync does, he is not devops after all and might have never maintained a server, and doesn't keep local backups (shame on them though) to need to use rsync.
There are also marketing people and finance people, etc.
The Red Hat retail to Enterprise shift still leaves a little bitter taste in my mouth. I remember when they shut down public access to the rhel binaries and the beginnings of Centos. All legit to the letter of the license and no more. I get it though. Anyone know how Centos under Red Hat is nowadays?
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Debian and apt-get are the final Linux distribution / package manager I will ever use. Fifteen years of compiling dependency hell, never again.
I think the point is, there is no more dependency hell.
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I don't think it is possible to be Open Source without being Free Software, and vice versa. At least I've never seen it done.
Atlassian software is Open Source but not Free Software. You can download it, inspect it, and run it... but you need a paid license to keep it running. The same is true of RHEL, because CentOS is effectively "RHEL without a paid license".
The difference is that Atlassian sells plenty of proprietary software and add ons too, while the only proprietary software that Red Hat sells comes from recent acquisitions (e.g., Ansible Tower), and it is all in the process of becoming open source.
Red Hat has a great track record for open sourcing software from companies that they acquired.
Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago. Absolutely love working for this company! Especially that most engineers use GNU/Linux of some sort. Great to see this!
"Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago." I have something I'd like to ask you ... Two years ago, at the RSA convention, I ran into a redhat employee and was chatting about (unix) and I mentioned that I was the founder of rsync.net with the expectation that he knew exactly who we were and what we did. He had no idea and had never heard of us . I felt like I had uncovered an enormous flaw in my outreach and…
What is so great about RH? When i had opportunity to use it, it look so bad mostly because lack of current/decent software in repo. Maybe their support is amazing?
I support both Ubuntu LTS and RHEL in production (multiple releases each) and RHEL has been rock-solid for years while there's constant trouble with Ubuntu.
Documentation is great.
It's this mindset that makes me want to support Red Hat as a company. As good as the Fedora 25 experience has been for me, I'd love to see Linux laptop vendors (especially Dell) make it an installed option soon. Maybe CentOS laptops would make more sense for them from a sheer "stability for support sake" experience.
There's a sort of chicken-and-egg problem there (or at least, there has been in the past. I've been out of the loop on this for a few years). CentOS/RHEL are definitely the stable, long-term distros, but they don't always map exactly to a specific Fedora release, so you can't necessarily just build RPMs for the last few Fedora versions and also support CentOS/RHEL. Historically, when looking for software that wasn't…