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Re: What makes us Red Hat

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> they're the most successful free software business in history. Aren't they also the only successful free software business in history? Asking seriously, since I am not aware of any other examples. And I suppose it depends on your definitions of success, of course.

Automattic comes to mind: AFAIK they've built a pretty successful business on WordPress and related products.

They aren't public, but yes I believe they are valued at 1bn+ too

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago. Absolutely love working for this company! Especially that most engineers use GNU/Linux of some sort. Great to see this!

"Just started working at Red Hat about a month ago."

I have something I'd like to ask you ...

Two years ago, at the RSA convention, I ran into a redhat employee and was chatting about (unix) and I mentioned that I was the founder of rsync.net with the expectation that he knew exactly who we were and what we did.

He had no idea and had never heard of us. I felt like I had uncovered an enormous flaw in my outreach and relations efforts if someone at redhat had no idea who we were.

But now I'm not so sure ... I have a feeling that somehow the redhat ecosystem and the people that use it are quite a bit differently focused than the HN crowd and people that are UNIX enthusiasts for the sake of UNIX.

I wonder what you think ?

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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What are you referring to?

Ditching Unity + Mir, and returning to Gnome. Convergence is good. https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cl...

Canonical are ditching Mir? I must have missed this one. Was this discussed here?

Page won't load for me but my first thought was this was a poor taste April fools ;)

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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> ...and I particularly remember that an ad agency that wanted our business once shipped us a box containing a burnt red hat (!). Now that's a great ad agency.

Eh, "we hate your competitor" is neither imaginative nor compelling.

Presentation matters.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Where is the redhat ecosystem trending with regard to CoW filesystems ?

Are people regularly using ZFS-on-linux with redhat ? Or is there an officially sanctioned CoW choice from redhat ?

Or is that not on the radar at all right now ?

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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> they're the most successful free software business in history. Aren't they also the only successful free software business in history? Asking seriously, since I am not aware of any other examples. And I suppose it depends on your definitions of success, of course.

Automattic comes to mind: AFAIK they've built a pretty successful business on WordPress and related products.

Who?

They're not even in the same ballpark. RH has 10k employees and USD 1bn in revenue with a market cap of ~15bn, these guys just seem to be a ~500 person WordPress shop.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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In the Enterprise world, we typically don't want latest and greatest. We want stability for a long time. :)

I think this is a myth, or at best relative, not all enterprises accept old for stability Many enterprises want up to date and stable software, and since you are paying for stability, why shouldn't you get fairly recent and stable software Most companies for example don't consider MS SQL 2016 as less stable than MS SQL 2008 or 2012, most users expect the same level of stability from the latest SQL Server than from ea…

Nobody running a thousand of anything uses the first release of $X, whether $X is a database or window manager or kernel or router firmware

SQL Server 2016 may be better than SQL Server 2008, but enterprises aren't deploying it until it has baked a few months, and maybe sp1/sp2/some major rollup ships for all the bugs the suckers find at rollout

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Red Hat or the Microsoft of Linux is the face palm of linux distros, forget dependency hell, how on earth someone choose rpm over first class Superior Debian package system or distros like Ubuntu? People just buy it for the support even if the Red Hat they use is Gnome 2 and Firefox V.3.0. Then finally RHCA/RHCE courses, i should get certified from this distro to prove my Linux skills for the companies even though i…

> how on earth someone choose rpm over first class Superior Debian package system So, what makes the Debian package system superior? Having built multiple specs in the past, but not any debs, I'm curious. Given that you can often convert debs to RPMs and vice-versa, and can use the different package managers on either type of repository, it's not obvious where one has any specific benefit.

I've built both Debian packages and RPMs, and I feel that RPMs are somewhat easier to wrap your head around. It's been a while since I did Debian package building, though.

It's also undeniably true that there was a time when APT + dpkg blew Red Hat's "equivalent" tools out of the water, but that's not the case anymore.

One thing I like in particular about dnf/rpm is that I can install packages by using functions, so eg. telling yum to install perl(Net::DNS) will work and installs the perl-Net-DNS package. I'm not sure if apt can do this.

Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Seriously. Weekend long marathons of dependency chasing (in the snow, uphill both ways) to finally get config/make/make install to run were not only a thing but disturbingly commonplace. These kids don't know how good they've got it. God I feel old.

At least you had a package manager with a reasonable number of packages. My first distro as a main OS was Puppy Linux because it was a small download (remember dialup?) Actually at the time I didn't even have internet in my apartment, so installing software went something like this: 1) Identify a really interesting piece of software, like OpenFOAM, with (unbeknownst to me) lots of dependencies 2) Take a half hour wal…

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Re: What makes us Red Hat

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Eh, "we hate your competitor" is neither imaginative nor compelling.

Actually took me forever to figure out he meant a literal box, containing a literal burnt red hat. I parsed that as a box (server) imaged (burnt) with Red Hat (the operating system).

We have weird words.
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