All I need graphics for is the web. Build a terminal-only window manager with firefox built in.
Does a tiling window manager like i3 not fit that use case?
Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am sad too, in fact, a scan over the comments suggests we aren't so much in the minority. I think too that his conviction was right, it is merely possible that his strategy of going out on his own on Mir wasn't the right one. I'm not sure if going with Wayland will hamper the eventual convergence, but I doubt at this point we will see an open source convergence before we see one in proprietary form.
It's here already called the Samsung Dex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPegrUMXaA https://news.samsung.com/global/hands-on-8-galaxy-s8-feature...
Kudos to Samsung for the amazing efforts but DeX is far from open.
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#103Damn. From the horses mouth: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cl... I might be a small minority, but I _like_ Unity 7. I have never used Unity 8, and I thought the Ubuntu phone was misspent effort, but wow. Now I have to figure out if there is a way to style Gnome to look like Unity 7. I wonder what this means for Mir vs Wayland as well.
Hopefully this means that Wayland is now the unified future for the Linux desktop.
I don't think it would be too hard for Canonical to create some installed by default extensions and themes to make Unity users feel more at home in Gnome. The global menu is the only thing I can think of that would maybe be a little too tricky to be worth the effort.
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#104This is awesome. When that "What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?" post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14002821 was up recently, I wanted to say "Get rid of the abomination that is Unity" but figured it'd just be flamebait. Little did I know how close my dreams were to coming true!
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#105Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
#106I just got the Ubuntu phone. It's the first smart-phone that I don't hate. I do agree that Ubuntu needs to stop with their NIH syndrome when it comes to desktop, but the phone market is just flat out terrible. I would be willing to spend a lot of money for a decent FOSS phone, but there just isn't anything out there. Ubuntu was my only hope |:(
What about the Fairphone + AOSP + F-Droid?
Have you tried using that? Android without Google play is still an exercise in frustration. And Google is purposely designing it that way more and more as time goes on. I don't think the Ubuntu phone is a great phone, but if I have problems, I can usually fix them myself. Good luck doing that with any android that I've tried on.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's wrong with Snaps? I'd say it's a good approach in many cases.
Upstream GNOME is working on Flatpak, so is Ubuntu going to ship GNOME or GNOME-with-Flatpak-stripped-out?
If they are going to integrate gnome with snaps and snaps having an actual market, I doubt flatpak can compete against them. BUT, it would be easier for Canonical if they do something with their CAL, that'd be the real game changer.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flatpak seems more limited in scope as documents say: > Can Flatpak be used on servers too? Flatpak is designed to run inside a desktop session and relies on certain session services, such as a dbus session bus and a systemd --user instance. This makes Flatpak not a good match for a server. Whereas Snap documents say: Package any app for every Linux desktop, server, cloud or device, and deliver updates directly.
I know - however these things are seldom demarcated on merit and more on ideology. I wish the next generation of linux has a single package manager :(
I think in case of Snap, it is part of money making server business. So it is less likely Canonical is going to give up on that.
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Last two weeks I've estimating Tizen, Ubuntu or Sailfish worth port an app. Like sample apps, build scripts debugging, etc. Although Tizen has large corp support, Ubuntu and Sailfish look more developer friendly. CMake, QT , C++.
Perhaps you overlooked this? https://www.tizen.org/blogs/dh0922/2016/tizen-.net-developer... https://www.tizen.org/blogs/myungjae/2017/samsung%E2%80%99s-...
C# look like a dead end, though much better than first WinPhone with "SilverLight." If you have written c/ or c++ engine, you need just a good bridge to OS UI language. Well, also platform + tools that work well on each Unix/Linux.
Just to mention I used to like MS technologies. Least problems I had with ASP 2 / AJAX web app which works for nine years without significant problems.