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Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
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Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
#52Canonical ”raised" like 20 million USD to create a converged phone but the "community/market didn't want it"?
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#53I'm entirely convinced that Shuttleworth's vision of convergence will happen. It looks like an inevitability, as mobile computing power continues to grow faster than typical consumer workloads (the same forces already made it possible for $400 laptops to be good enough for most mainstream users). Canonical just didn't have the resources to push a 3rd mobile platform. Hell, even Microsoft gave up (who did have the res…
Just my opinion: It will be Chromebook+Android or more the mixture of both. Google is playing well by saying: "The time and technology is not yet ready for this to happen." But I'm also convinced it will happen sooner or later. And I'm sure Apple has some experiments in this direction... iOS and macOS are technically more the same than Android vs. ChromeOS.
I just hope I get a good usable *nix terminal with the laptop mode ;)
Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
#54I get that they're moving away from convergence, but what does this ultimately mean for Ubuntu as a mobile OS? In the grand scheme of things, what does this mean for users who want a completely FOSS stack for their phone (let's ignore the baseband for now)? As far as I can tell, this just means that your only options are Android or iOS. It's not easy to get a Jolla/SailfishOS phone that will work on most Canadian or…
LineageOS + F-Droid
Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
#55I'm entirely convinced that Shuttleworth's vision of convergence will happen. It looks like an inevitability, as mobile computing power continues to grow faster than typical consumer workloads (the same forces already made it possible for $400 laptops to be good enough for most mainstream users). Canonical just didn't have the resources to push a 3rd mobile platform. Hell, even Microsoft gave up (who did have the res…
Sometimes the market and/or the user base is not ready for a new piece of tech. I agree with you about the inevitability of convergence but perhaps it wasn't supposed to happen just now.
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#56> We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
This is huge and was my #1 request for the previous post for Ubuntu 17.10. Gnome on Fedora is amazing and I have had people walk up to me and ask me - what OS am I running ?
It is so much better for Ubuntu and Redhat to have joint stewardship of Gnome going forward rather than split energy on wasted competition.
My next biggest request is flatpak vs snappy - I cant believe that the package management wars are beginning all over again in 2017. Just pick one and be done with it. RPM and DEB will never converge, but we have a narrow window of opportunity with flatpak and snappy.
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#57I may be a minority, but I am very saddened by this. Not because I have any particular love for Unity, but rather I share Mark's conviction that convergence is the future.
Love or hate it but Unity was IMO the best shot we had at getting an open source unified phone, tablet and desktop experience...and now this is effectively Canonical not only shutting down Unity, but refocusing efforts away from convergence and towards more traditional market segments. I mourn the death of this innovative path.
That said, hopefully this convergence with GNOME will eventually lead back to convergence...but for now that dream is dead it would seem.
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#58I knew this was happening. They invested on Unity8 in quite reverse way. They had opportunity to make unity8 excellent desktop environment (they had money and workforce) and after becoming most popular de in linux environment they could continue that to mobile space(they are most popular linux distro already). Putting money on phone portion instead of desktop portion of the unity8 was biggest mistake i cna imagine. I can't understand rational behind it. Just look at what Microsoft does, they prioritize desktop win10 over mobile win10.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, Canonical was heavily involved with Mir because of Unity, right? So, with this change, I guess we can expect a Wayland related news in the following weeks/months. BTW, I would go even further: will they still invest in the Snap package or they will do the same and go to a community oriented package system?
Snap is explicitly mentioned as one of the things they want to focus more on.
Just for IoT or for desktop, too?
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#60I cannot wait for Unity to die, and now it does. I was not very happy when they decided to make Unity mac-like by moving the menu to the top bar. It has to be the most idiotic decision around for anyone who has multiple monitors. Even with a single monitor, it is a pain in the ass to move the mouse all the way to the top left corner for the menu to appear, and then orienting myself with the items presented.
You could always use keyboard shortcuts to access the menu. Unity also let you search through the menu items with the Alt key - no manual navigation necessary.
I thought that integrated menus are a great idea - even Apple does it. It saves vertical space and looks "at one" with the rest of the system.