Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

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Post by popey » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:06 PM UTC

Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence
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Post by uam » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:21 PM UTC

Does this mean that Ubuntu is moving away from Mir, to Wayland?

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Post by anilgulecha » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:21 PM UTC

Wow.. I see where Mr. Shuttleworth is coming from.

I'd like to state that I'm a happy Ubuntu user, and have been using Unity for the past few years and have generally found it to be a good ui for the desktop. I know many many others fall in the same bucket.

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Post by mhall119 » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:22 PM UTC

uam wrote: post #2

Does this mean that Ubuntu is moving away from Mir, to Wayland?

Ubuntu will use what upstream GNOME uses, which means Wayland for the compositor.

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Post by WD-42 » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:24 PM UTC

Wow. This is a real shock, it wouldn't be out of place for April 1st.

This is good news for linux on the desktop. Not that diversity isn't good, but Unity has been stale for years while Gnome has been progressing, but suffering from the fragmentation that Canonical caused.

Hopefully this will result in more contributions upstream, which will benefit all linux distributions. This was always the main complaint with Canonical.

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Post by shanemhansen » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:31 PM UTC

I can't tell you how happy I am to see convergence dying. My desktop is not just a big phone and people put out some atrocious user interfaces in the name of "convergence".

WRT to unity, at least it's improved. Ubuntu w/ unity currently has the best multi-monitor multi-dpi user experience I've seen on linux. I have a retina laptop with 2 external displays and ubuntu unity is the only thing that just works out of the box.

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Post by mtgx » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:38 PM UTC

Does that mean they're going to make it easy not to have the taskbar on the side - or god forbid, even put it at the bottom by default? I remember that "convergence" with mobile was the primary reason why the Ubuntu UI was designed the way it was and why the taskbar was put on the side.

Yes, I realize a lot of Ubuntu users have already gotten used to it, and some may even prefer it, but I'm sure the majority of new users would feel confused and turned off by it. I would argue Ubuntu has to focus more on gaining Windows users than on keeping the hardcore Linux users.

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Post by s_kilk » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:39 PM UTC

> We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

Legitimately never thought I'd ever see this. Possibly the best thing that could happen for desktop Linux in this age.

Edit: and of course this would mean Ubuntu/Canonical and Fedora/RedHat basing their desktop OS's on the same platform, which can only mean easier development of desktop software and services.

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:39 PM UTC

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Post by pmoriarty » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 5:41 PM UTC

Now if they could just abandon systemd.