Where will UX Design be in 5 years? • Hacker News Board

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by beaconstudios » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 10:32 AM UTC

laktek wrote: post #134

beaconstudios wrote: post #128

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I'm working on something much more elegant that takes designers above the focus of "HTML+CSS code" to an abstraction that makes sense. Similar to webflow, but allows you to continue to build out your app without having to drop down into text editing. A solution may be closer than you think ;)

Interested hear more about your approach. I'm also trying to solve it with Pragma - https://www.laktek.com/2016/11/29/introducing-pragma/ Here's a little sneak peak: https://twitter.com/laktek/status/845815533450682370

we should definitely have a chat - could you drop me an email? my address is in my profile. Thanks!

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by amelius » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 10:37 AM UTC

sweetdreamerit wrote: post #104

mack73 wrote: post #88

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UX = UI + ? UX % UI = ? Is it a feeling or a thing perhaps?

UX is about needs and goals of users. Is about research with the users, documentation, and then UI, and usability. UI is a part of UX. The most visible, not the most important.

So UX is really about product design?

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by efdee » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 10:58 AM UTC

fludlight wrote: post #90

quickben wrote: post #27

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Where did you read that? All I'm seeing is more and more ads in win 10 as time goes on.

Wait, wait, I've been in an OSX/AdBlock/uBlock bubble since Windows 7, are you saying that the latest mass consumer version of Windows has advertisements built in like network television?

I've heard people talk about them, but I've never seen it on any of the 4 Windows 10 machines running under my roof. Apart from the (already plenty annoying) notification about a new version of Office.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by efdee » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:02 AM UTC

flukus wrote: post #55

k__ wrote: post #5

The problem I see with UX today is that there is a split. One the one hand are the people who just want to make good products people love to use. On the other hand are the corps who want to use this as a tool to direct people in a way that they spent more money for nothing gained.

> One the one hand are the people who just want to make good products people love to use. I don't want to "love to use" any product, the product is just a means to an end and just needs to let me do what I need to do and stay out of my way otherwise.

Some say the journey is as important as the destination. In which case, I prefer to use products that I can love.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by fnord123 » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:03 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #101

thope wrote: post #84

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I thought LGPL meant if you link to (Qt) shared libraries, your project does not have to be LGPL ?

Not all platforms allow for dynamic linking.

Out of interest, which platforms that Qt targets, cannot have dynamic linking?

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by on_and_off » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:16 AM UTC

hacker_9 wrote: post #8

To be honest UI dev tools just plain suck, making everything move more slowly that it needs to. If I'm on the web it's the HTML + CSS clusterfuck, If I'm in C# I'm writing color converters for WPF, if it's Java I have to use the outdated looking Swing, if it's C++ it's QT which I need to doll out cash for. Additionally every smart phone OS has it's own groundbreaking GUI layout concepts and ideas too. Then you get th…

Weird, I feel that UI tools are evolving very fast on Android.

ConstraintLayout is pretty much AutoLayout without the bad parts, Databinding makes declarative style UI easy to write.

It is not perfect by any means, but it is definitely improving quite steadily.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by TuringTest » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:23 AM UTC

kagamine wrote: post #119

Razengan wrote: post #113

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> it's about a detailed process that includes data structures, mapping processes, analysis of users' behavior and removing all instinct and subjectivity from the process of design. Ugh no. Please, no. Don't do this. I'm saying – pleading – this as a user. Apple didn't do it (but maybe now they do, and it's starting to show in some of their products as a sort of creeping clinical sterility). Steve Jobs didn't do it [0…

I think you are mixing up visual design, graphic design, with UX and interaction design.

No, he's right, in part. UX & interaction design shouldn't be just about measuring clickthrough and abandon rates, or you get interfaces like Google's products, who use that design philosophy.[1]

UX design must be informed by data and field research (which depends on those "data structures, mapping processes, analysis of users' behavior"), but it still needs an opinionated designer who empathizes with the user pains and problems, and creates an interface that solves the needs as well as provides the adequate usage feeling (which, even being non-functional, is an important part of making a design usable) [2].

[1] https://medium.com/the-design-innovator/iteration-is-not-des...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Design#Content

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by TuringTest » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:34 AM UTC

beaconstudios wrote: post #128

hacker_9 wrote: post #8

To be honest UI dev tools just plain suck, making everything move more slowly that it needs to. If I'm on the web it's the HTML + CSS clusterfuck, If I'm in C# I'm writing color converters for WPF, if it's Java I have to use the outdated looking Swing, if it's C++ it's QT which I need to doll out cash for. Additionally every smart phone OS has it's own groundbreaking GUI layout concepts and ideas too. Then you get th…

I'm working on something much more elegant that takes designers above the focus of "HTML+CSS code" to an abstraction that makes sense. Similar to webflow, but allows you to continue to build out your app without having to drop down into text editing. A solution may be closer than you think ;)

Also interested. Do you have anything online to explain your base ideas?

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by bbcbasic » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:40 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #142

sweetdreamerit wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UX is about needs and goals of users. Is about research with the users, documentation, and then UI, and usability. UI is a part of UX. The most visible, not the most important.

So UX is really about product design?

It is about the experience that the user has when using your product.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by bbcbasic » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 11:43 AM UTC

avodonosov wrote: post #4

Have there been anything new in UX since 1970s?

Swipes, pinches, shakes, 3D effects.

One phone UX thing I hate for example. Phone makes random noises at night. Now try to pinpoint the app or setting or setting within an app that causes that.