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Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by martin-adams »

rileymat2 wrote: post #63

"A full picture of the Mac’s UX design includes advertising, store layout, the purchase process, the box, the documentation, how it feels to hold, the esteem and social meaning of owning it, and so on." At some point does it become so all encompassing to be meaningless as a term?

I call it end-to-end UX and while a lot of UX designers focus only on the UI, no, I do not think it's a meaningless term. There's still a lot of confusion over what UX really means and a lot of designers don't design for the end-to-end experience.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by flukus »

fludlight wrote: post #90
quickben wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you read that? All I'm seeing is more and more ads in win 10 as time goes on.

Wait, wait, I've been in an OSX/AdBlock/uBlock bubble since Windows 7, are you saying that the latest mass consumer version of Windows has advertisements built in like network television?

Yes. The login screen has "click to buy this desktop wallpaper" ads and occasionally paid ad placements (I believe there was a tomb raider one). And recently they've been putting their cloud drive (OneDrive??) ads in explorer (even for the pro edition). It was one of the final straws that pushed me back to linux.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by mhd »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #15

If I could express a desire rather than a prediction, it's that "undiscoverable" UIs die. I hate having to swipe and tap and generally mess with the screen in the hope of triggering some secret feature. I don't know when it became trendy to get rid of UI chrome but I really wish it would come back. (I wouldn't mind if the hamburger menu died either.)

I doubt that mobile screens will get bigger. The resolution will increase, but that just means that the few over-designed details that are shown will be crisper.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by kagamine »

whytaka wrote: post #64
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #34

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You really underestimate the amount of time it takes to practice and do adequate UX design; unless you spend 10,000 hours doing design, you are going to suck at it, and most of the jack of all trades designers devs I met have really been mediocre at both. "Designers should code" is as fallacious as "accountants should be lawyers". Specialization has been the direction of human civilization ever since the neolithic re…

I have spent 10000+ hours doing design and I've got to say that my leap into code (especially backend) has been incredibly eye-opening. I've realized how so much of design is ego-driven, how design studios design for design awards, and what a crime it is that so many technical minds are steered to work on problems more related to fashion than accessibility or productivity. Designers should definitely code. Too much o…

I agree, but would like to add that there is a caveat to 'designers should code' that is not letting a programming language or framework dictate design through its limitations or structure.

I am a designer who codes, in fact my background is UX and my job is as a developer. It's easy to think about implementation during design, for example, designing a web-app and knowing it will be implemented in Angular leads to thinking about how Angular will implement it, leading generally to modals everywhere, just everywhere. If I knew nothing about the technical implementation I wonder if it would be a smoother design process, possibly better results. But then I see so much poor design everywhere that I can never be sure if something was designed by a coder who knows little about design or a designer who knows nothing about implementation.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by pjmlp »

kpil wrote: post #40
kuschku wrote: post #29

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> if it's Java I have to use the outdated looking Swing Java has JavaFX now

Swing is themeable, as has always been. With some minimal effort, it's possible to do a nice looking GUI with fonts that not look like vomit, etc. If Sun and Oracle had spent more than 5 minutes on packaging applications - why not in jxe-files for executable jars, as a simple start to avoid torturing your users - and using nice fonts - and why not a discrete and non-whiny non-bundlig autoupdating jre - they could act…

Spending a few minutes a day reading "Filthy Rich Clients" would already help.

Sun is the one to blame, as traditional UNIX company their Swing team just didn't had any clue about the desktop world, outside enterprise walls.

Oracle is actually doing much more than Sun ever did, they introduced a way to package applications with Java 8, originally part of the JavaFX project, and are adding support for AOT compilation (it was tabu at Sun) and application specific runtimes.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by pjmlp »

hasbot wrote: post #73
kpil wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swing is themeable, as has always been. With some minimal effort, it's possible to do a nice looking GUI with fonts that not look like vomit, etc. If Sun and Oracle had spent more than 5 minutes on packaging applications - why not in jxe-files for executable jars, as a simple start to avoid torturing your users - and using nice fonts - and why not a discrete and non-whiny non-bundlig autoupdating jre - they could act…

I was a Swing developer (and loved it). Distributing Swing applications was never a major issue. The issue was that once the web hit, all my co-workers wanted to do web applications and convinced management web was where it was at.

I have been both side of the fence, and when I have the freedom to choose which projects I apply for, projects with native UIs always win my heart.

Personally I think it was a good move to go back into native UIs, right about the time people were starting to adopt Angular.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by kagamine »

capkutay wrote: post #7

I see a couple challenges with the future of UX design. One being that everyone has an opinion as to how something should work. Unless someone has years of widely-recognized, valid experience/expertise in design, who's to say if one person's instincts are better than another's? The other issue I see is process taking over creativity. Soundcloud's iconic design was driven largely by the intuition of the designers and…

I think you don't understand the design process. Not being bitchy, so let me explain.

Instinct should be 1% of design if anything. Design isn't about colors and pretty, it's about a detailed process that includes data structures, mapping processes, analysis of users' behavior and removing all instinct and subjectivity from the process of design. It should include a minimum of guesswork wherever possible. It always amazes me, for example, that shared hosting comes with awstats as standard on 99% of shared hosts, but designers and web-developers alike ignore all the data sitting there available for analysis, to use just one example of how designers aren't using the tools available to them (and you have to know what to do with the awstats data too).

My prediction for the future of UX is that the army of self-taught pseudo-UX 'experts' are going to have to up their game, get some real training and stop being intuitive if the industry is to continue to grow. Would anyone on HN hire a full time software tester/QA who didn't have some training in that field? Probably, but you'd be better off with a QA who is certified.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by Kiro »

nikofeyn wrote: post #32
capkutay wrote: post #7

I see a couple challenges with the future of UX design. One being that everyone has an opinion as to how something should work. Unless someone has years of widely-recognized, valid experience/expertise in design, who's to say if one person's instincts are better than another's? The other issue I see is process taking over creativity. Soundcloud's iconic design was driven largely by the intuition of the designers and…

soundcloud has an iconic design? the little waveform-esque view?

Yes, as someone who was using MySpace a lot for consuming music, SoundCloud's design was revolutionary.

Re: Where will UX Design be in 5 years?

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Post by pjmlp »

knieveltech wrote: post #36

Blowing up project budgets trying to get markup to display like random native app controls. Same place it was five years ago, and ten years before that.

This is why went from someone that enjoyed web development in its early days to work on native UIs every time I get the opportunity.

Nowadays I see Web dev as plain work, for fun I code only native.

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