Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by kofejnik » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 12:44 AM UTC

namlem wrote: post #216

lacampbell wrote: post #188

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I too am always baffled about how much more accepted communist imagery is than Nazi imagery. Mao and Stalins death counts far outstrip Hitlers. Also anyone advocating nazism in public would be rightly shouted down but you get heavily upvoted posts here advocating all sorts of nonsense proven to kill millions.

Communist death tolls are mostly due to economic mismanagement, whereas the Nazis were intentionally exterminating people. Obviously many people were killed in the gulags, but that number is far smaller than the numbers killed in Nazi death camps or in the famines which resulted from the aforementioned mismanagement.

this is simply not true, please read up on Holodomor, forced Chechen relocation, etc. Stalin was pretty much as evil as Hitler.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by qu4z-2 » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 12:49 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #240

qu4z-2 wrote: post #208

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Is there some source for these percentages or are the numbers generated purely from a sense of "I like this group" vs "I don't like that group"?

Those numbers are not my opinion on anything in particular. It's a loose representation of how they were describing the groups. eropple said one in a few thousand were innocent, while Karunamon was describing a minority of the group as racist/terrorist. There's a big difference between "almost all of this group is terrible, you are enabling them and should be painted with the same brush" and "a tiny fraction of this…

Fair enough. I would definitely agree that there's a difference depending on what portion of the group has the behaviour in question. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by rhizome » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 1:04 AM UTC

sqeaky wrote: post #94

rhizome wrote: post #74

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it wouldn't have been very hard to get one of the larger political subreddits to get something on the board and maintain it for the weekend I'm not so sure this is actually true. Have you ever tried to organize a large number of people?

For something like this the level of organization is tiny. I added to tux, and all I need was the picture of tux. I barely needed that because I just refilled pixels people poked into him.

Does it make sense that you'd really only need about 300 people, one for every second in 5min? After that, the group can pretty much add squares constantly, one per second. Maybe that wouldn't be fast enough, but it's a good head start on offense, and I'm obvs not accounting for defense.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by soundwave106 » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 1:28 AM UTC

rtx wrote: post #215

soundwave106 wrote: post #161

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Of the three, the swastika internationally is the most problematic symbol as far as international law goes. It is banned outright except for narrow historical exceptions in several Western countries (eg France and Germany). Other countries may not have banned the symbol per se, but they may have "hate speech" type laws, and a swastikas used for this purpose may also fall afoul of that. The hammer and sickle is more c…

A billion Hindus would disagree with you.

Yes, it should be clarified we are talking about the Nazi swastika.

Unfortunately in the West, the Nazi use of the swastika dominates the public perception of the symbol. (This is very unfortunate given the long historical tradition of the swastika in Asia and other cultures.)

As far as I'm aware, legally, context matters significantly in places where the symbol is banned; eg the Nazi swastika is outlawed in Germany because it represents a banned political ideology, whereas a Hindu swastika is not.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by greenhatman » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 1:48 AM UTC

sqeaky wrote: post #94

rhizome wrote: post #74

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it wouldn't have been very hard to get one of the larger political subreddits to get something on the board and maintain it for the weekend I'm not so sure this is actually true. Have you ever tried to organize a large number of people?

For something like this the level of organization is tiny. I added to tux, and all I need was the picture of tux. I barely needed that because I just refilled pixels people poked into him.

/r/place made me realize that I care about Linux than my country.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by greenhatman » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 2:00 AM UTC

make3 wrote: post #131

the_watcher wrote: post #56

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To be fair, Michael Jordan spent a few years trying to rehabilitate the Hitler mustache in his Hanes ads. The problem is that Hitler's become so associated with it that it's now broadly known as the Hitler mustache (as opposed to the toothbrush mustache - thanks DanBC!), which makes it pretty hard to dissociate it with the man for most people.

a black person with a Hitler moustache is not remotely nearly as bad. they really don't look like Hitler, and it's very unlikely they are secretly hoping for the supremacy of the Aryan race

The only black person I know of who has a Hitler mustache is Robert Mugabe.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by Nexxxeh » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 2:10 AM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #143

Nexxxeh wrote: post #72

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/r/wales and /faroeislands had a mutual defense pact, enabling both (small in terms of Reddit) communities to punch above their weight. It was great fun, fighting off trolls and attempts by other subreddits to aquire further real estate for themselves. /u/SCtester cleaned up the final image to fix up (ed: some of) the in-progress and rogue pixels and damage by the "void" group. http://i.imgur.com/7E3bAnE.png There ar…

Reading through the conversation on this stuff, I'm wondering if this weird combination of amusement and befuddlement is how my parents felt when I was telling them about my online activities back in the early 90s.

Did you read about how /pol/ trolled Shia LaBeouf's "He Will Not Divide Us" project?

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by rangibaby » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 2:29 AM UTC

freeflight wrote: post #90

baby wrote: post #13

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When are we going to see this beautiful sign back in our culture as a positive symbol :( that and the Hitler mustache. I'm guessing we need a few hundred years before we can use these things without it being associated to Nazism.

>I'm guessing we need a few hundred years before we can use these things without it being associated to Nazism. Imho this has more to do with a lack of knowledge among the general (western) populations which mostly only know the symbol from the Nazis. But not all swastika are same as there are quite a few differences in orientation and details between the Nazi Swastika and the actual Hindu/Buddhist symbols.

> But not all swastika are same as there are quite a few differences in orientation and details between the Nazi Swastika and the actual Hindu/Buddhist symbols.

The only difference I have seen between the nazi swastika and the Hindu one is that the nazi one is at an angle.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by intended » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 2:43 AM UTC

badloginagain wrote: post #153

CarVac wrote: post #86

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They also held a much more modestly-sized area. The larger you are, the bigger the attack surface and the more your defenses are spread out. Plus, you attract more attention when larger; the 1G logo northwest of Canada was originally a good deal bigger, but a rival streamer told his followers to wipe it out and it was completely dissolved within about ten minutes; very scary. Personally I was against expansion but I…

What's interesting is how quickly the game theory of r/place was learned, and how most sizes represented the size of the community. Even in dedicated attacks, like the nuking of the American flag, the size of the community directly correlated to the amount of real-estate. The black blob showed how over-extension could collapse the whole structure. The other thing I found interesting was how quickly the quality of dis…

Eventually everything was scripted though, and you just needed to show up with a zombie account to contribute.

Saw lots of 1 year old accounts with no activity.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Post by Nomentatus » Wed, Apr 05, 2017, 2:57 AM UTC

pkamb wrote: post #237

dccoolgai wrote: post #218

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Bless you. Don't ever go to reddit.com

I get the fun of /r/place. I get the flags. I get the characters. I don't get the big block of text from Revenge of the Sith, and (mainly) how supporters of that beat out other communities.

See Albert Camus' "Sissyphus", I guess.