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Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Where would you propose hosting it in Africa? I understand that the consumer internet situation is not very good over there, are there datacenters and strong fiber links to USA and Europe? This is essentially why my company doesn't target African markets, because our software requires a persistent internet connection.

South Africa has good and stable fiber links. It would be the natural choice.

That's where EC2 was invented and developed, too!

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Interesting that AWS didn't chose to place their DC's at the "Node Pole" ( http://thenodepole.com ) in the northern parts of Sweden where FB have theirs.

Most likely to be closer to the capital Stockholm, main Internet exchange and startups in Sweden. Further more you will have better latency to the rest of Nordics closer to Stockholm.

Population density of the Nordics https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norden#/media/File:Norden_pop_...

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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> I don't have to experience something to know anything about it. I'll make my opinion from a far from statistics that have no correlation to whether a datacenter could actually thrive in Kenya. First of all, I reject the notion that only first hand experiences are a valid way of forming opinions. In fact I would argue that statistics and facts are better than feelings and impressions for making business decisions in…

> Other countries (like America) may have their problems, but not at this scale and severity. You've cherry picked problems, that you have no actual knowledge of, comment on the "scale and severity", and say that those problems disqualify Kenya from having hosting an AWS data center. However, the problems of other countries (the US, China, Brazil) don't disqualify them. Not to mention that there are other data center…

> I assume that you think that Amazon would be clearing parts of the African Serengeti and protecting it's racks from lions, wildebeest and tribesmen.

And I assume you think of me as some kind of idiot. Of course I understand that Kenya is not as you just said, but I consider Kenya an underdeveloped country that does not have its act together. I really don't see how you can argue against that based on facts.

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Where would you propose hosting it in Africa? I understand that the consumer internet situation is not very good over there, are there datacenters and strong fiber links to USA and Europe? This is essentially why my company doesn't target African markets, because our software requires a persistent internet connection.

Why not Israel? * We have multiple fiber links * A lot of AWS heavy workloads comes from Israeli companies * Easy connection to other location through Egypt and Jordan

Israels economy is too small to justify an AWS region (yet).

To find out where the next AWS regions are going, go to wikipedia and sort countries by GDP, any large country without a region is a target. Obviously there is some massaging happening, like AWS is considering all the nordic countries near Sweden.

Another thing would be if AWS started building smaller regions with only 1 DC. Right now a region requires at least 3 DCs with the AZ model... so that's a lot of capacity to fill.

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Why not Israel? * We have multiple fiber links * A lot of AWS heavy workloads comes from Israeli companies * Easy connection to other location through Egypt and Jordan

Israels economy is too small to justify an AWS region (yet). To find out where the next AWS regions are going, go to wikipedia and sort countries by GDP, any large country without a region is a target. Obviously there is some massaging happening, like AWS is considering all the nordic countries near Sweden. Another thing would be if AWS started building smaller regions with only 1 DC. Right now a region requires at l…

While what you say makes perfect sense to _everyone_, sadly it is not true. London and Canada - both very new regions for AWS - each only have two availability zones (making them basically useless for a large class of infrastructure).

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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When will Africa get a region? Seriously, we have companies willing to pay big money to use a region closer to us.

Where would you propose hosting it in Africa? I understand that the consumer internet situation is not very good over there, are there datacenters and strong fiber links to USA and Europe? This is essentially why my company doesn't target African markets, because our software requires a persistent internet connection.

Tunisia may be an option

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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Where would you propose hosting it in Africa? I understand that the consumer internet situation is not very good over there, are there datacenters and strong fiber links to USA and Europe? This is essentially why my company doesn't target African markets, because our software requires a persistent internet connection.

Why not Israel? * We have multiple fiber links * A lot of AWS heavy workloads comes from Israeli companies * Easy connection to other location through Egypt and Jordan

There are a number of cities (Cairo, Riyadh, and Tehran come to mind) that are closer to Israel than Austin is from its nearest AWS data center, so plenty of other options as well to service Israel.

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The USA has a male genital mutilation rate of 79%, about 5% of African American males are incarcerated, and the vice president wants to defund HIV research in favour of funding "conversion therapy". It's easy to cherry pick facts to make a country look terrible.

I agree with everything you said in principle, but I disagree with your conclusion. I don't have to cherry pick facts to make Kenya look bad, I just picked a bunch of pretty bad ones about Kenya to illustrate my point. I also find it telling that, instead of cherry picking positive things about Kenya to disprove my point, posters in this thread resorted Whataboutisms with respect to the US. I really don't like being…

I didn't think you were cherry-picking facts deliberately; but there's an inevitable amount of accidental cherry-picking when we evaluate other countries based on the factors we consider to be important. It's like the "paradox" that 90% of drivers consider themselves to be better than average drivers; people who drive fast praise themselves for driving fast and people who drive slowly praise themselves for driving slowly, because in both cases how they drive is driven (pun not intended) by what they consider to be "good" driving.

I absolutely agree than Kenya and the USA are not "on par" with each other; but before jumping from that to describing Kenya as "a proper shithole" I'd want to talk to Kenyans and find out how Kenya measures up under their standards.

Re: Coming in 2018 – New AWS Region in Sweden

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When will Africa get a region? Seriously, we have companies willing to pay big money to use a region closer to us.

Where would you propose hosting it in Africa? I understand that the consumer internet situation is not very good over there, are there datacenters and strong fiber links to USA and Europe? This is essentially why my company doesn't target African markets, because our software requires a persistent internet connection.

South Africa is the most obvious spot. There's even an AWS dev centre in Cape Town: http://www.adccpt.com/
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