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Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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It's worth nothing that the admins did actively ban users trying to make swastikas. /b/ tried and found that out the hard way. Reddit's content policy[1] was still applicable and was very much enforced. [1] https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/

Where does your link say that swastikas are not allowed? Does a swastika "encourage or incite violence"? I'm curious since I don't ban swastikas on my site, although some of my users ask me to.

It's more about reddit being able to sell ads than anything else.

I'd say it falls under:

> Threatens, harasses, or bullies or encourages others to do so

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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I think this was a pretty neat experiment. For the first 24 hours everything was chaos, then it settled down in the middle as communities formed, then at the end it was just annoying as every subreddit was trying to take over real-estate, and far too many people were taking it way too seriously. It got annoying going to certain subreddits that I subscribe to for content started getting flooded with "Man the decks, we…

an excellent demonstration of the power of tribal icons and memes, which were interesting to observe over the development of the picture. it started with simple place-specific things, like the rainbow, hearts, and color blobs, and then towards pixel art of specific pre-existing communities.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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I'm surprised that the article doesn't talk about how things were ruined towards the end with bots mindlessly overwriting squares to impose a pattern on the grid instead of collaborating.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When are we going to see this beautiful sign back in our culture as a positive symbol :( that and the Hitler mustache. I'm guessing we need a few hundred years before we can use these things without it being associated to Nazism.

You need to explain yourself better. You seem to be opposed to Nazism, but in favor of their symbol. Why?

Because it's not their symbol. It was a symbol with many positive meanings that existed for a long time before Nazis.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #5

It's worth nothing that the admins did actively ban users trying to make swastikas. /b/ tried and found that out the hard way. Reddit's content policy[1] was still applicable and was very much enforced. [1] https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/

I wonder how they decided who was a willing participant. If I was a troll, I would try to create one with as many 'innocent' pixels as possible and get people banned for placing pixels they didn't know would become a swastika.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #5

It's worth nothing that the admins did actively ban users trying to make swastikas. /b/ tried and found that out the hard way. Reddit's content policy[1] was still applicable and was very much enforced. [1] https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/

I was surprised at the lack of swastikas, curse words, and nsfw content on the canvas, but that may say more about me than anything else.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When are we going to see this beautiful sign back in our culture as a positive symbol :( that and the Hitler mustache. I'm guessing we need a few hundred years before we can use these things without it being associated to Nazism.

You need to explain yourself better. You seem to be opposed to Nazism, but in favor of their symbol. Why?

It is not their symbol. They are just the most recent to use it.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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It was a seriously cool experiment. Factions rose and fell, alliances were forged, battles waged, "rules of war" developed. It was amazing.

But I don't think there's much to be gained from pontificating about it as a model for preventing hate speech.

For one, it was moderated. The slow speed of creating things just meant it was easier on moderators.

Secondly, the main thing that made it mostly pleasant was that only very widespread ideas could flourish. Minority ideas, whether good or bad, could not (even the art from small communities was only allowed to exist via alliances with larger communities that could easily destroy their art). This means things were mostly unobjectionable, but it also limits creativity. Do you really want that to be your model of public conversation? Things can only be published if 1000 people all try to publish the same thing and work to maintain it?

This would just be pushing filter bubbles to the extreme and driving resentment underground where nobody would notice it until it bubbled over. Then people would be like "whoa, where'd all the hate speech come from?", when it was there all along but not the dominant voice. And they would be making poor decisions regarding their own political strategy, because they mistakenly believed that they had won a battle that they had not.

All a model like that would do would be to amplify the status quo, whether good or bad. Just because your political faction happens to be dominant in certain circles doesn't mean you should adopt policies that always benefit the dominant political faction. Especially when your faction is all about protecting minorities. A status-quo-favouring policy would be terrible for minorities that do not already carry favour with the larger population.

When you think about whether a policy for shaping public conversation is a good idea long-term or not, consider whether it would be a good idea say, in Russia today. LGBT people in Russia are oppressed and do not hold favour with any larger political faction. "Majority gets to censor the minority" is a terrible policy in almost all cases, and people at present only don't realise this because they are in the historically improbable situation of the people with the power to censor also being the ones who favour minority voices. This is historically rare, and your policies should not rely on it being the case.

Re: Reddit’s April Fools’ experiment

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post #13
post #5

It's worth nothing that the admins did actively ban users trying to make swastikas. /b/ tried and found that out the hard way. Reddit's content policy[1] was still applicable and was very much enforced. [1] https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/

When are we going to see this beautiful sign back in our culture as a positive symbol :( that and the Hitler mustache. I'm guessing we need a few hundred years before we can use these things without it being associated to Nazism.

The toothbrush moustache:

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2009/jul/31/richard-herrin...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8218726.stm

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