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Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

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Post by briandear »

tedunangst wrote: post #166
kbenson wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This comment contains instructions on how to find the desired source of my original comment which was actually published and publicized in printed media. Then why is it so hard to include it yourself? It's poor form to make statements from sources and omit those sources. Unless you typed that from memory, you had one of those sources handy when you made the comment, so you could have included it easily, rather than…

I've always been kind of curious how the people who fill threads with quotes work. Do they have macro hot keys? A spreadsheet of quotes? (In some cases, the first google result for a quote is a page explaining that the quote is fake, so either they have some system that avoids google or they just ignore results they don't like.)

I have a Vim plugin:

:Q find-relevant-Hacker-News-quote

It then fetches the Hacker News URL, analyzes the text and finds a relevant quote that contrasts the average sentiment of the comments and then posts it.

The plugin will even post this text.

:Q post-explaination

:)

Re: Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous to Continue

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Post by khanbalam »

I am from Mexico and live in Mexico City.

To clarify a little bit, the newspaper is from a northern state. And yes, things in the northern states are rather violent and dangerous. But to be honest the really bad state is the one close to the capital, Estado de México which has many violent crime, crime against women, etc. We even joke that is like Mad Max fury road. Yes that bad.

Yet people go to work, to school and carry on.

As everything there are many sides and conflicting interests. Yet violence and crime are just one more bad thing to worry, being traffic and low income being other stuff you have to take into consideration.

As tourists you could always go to many other places instead of Ciudad Juárez or Tijuana since those two have become cities for degenerate people from other countries to abuse and commit atrocities and get away with it for the only reason that they have the dollars.

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Post by Paradigma11 »

2_listerine_pls wrote: post #146
jfim wrote: post #117

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> I could go on, but this is enough to make one wonder why they aren't being stopped. Except for that pesky sovereignty thing.

Is that the same sovereignty that stopped the US from from drilling their oil after overthrowing their government? It's odd reason given that narcotics are/were supposedly one of the principal sources of the Taliban’s financing.

What oil in afghanistan?

Even in iraq the oil reserves are managed by the iraqi ministry and went mostly to chinese companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Iraq_relations#R... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/03/world/middleeast/china-rea...

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Post by saiya-jin »

andrepd wrote: post #287
bflesch wrote: post #259

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Most people who are into doing criminal things actually have guns here in Europe. Our open borders allow people to drive a trunk full of guns from Turkish border directly to Berlin, and they regularly catch guys doing that. Only the people who get attacked don't have any guns, and they get fucked up.

Do you have anything to back that up or are you just gonna keep talking?

have a colleague from Paris suburbs - he regularly mentions how easy it is to obtain AK-47 there for some 300-400 eur. that's a battle rifle which ammo goes through walls, cars and personal armor like a knife through butter.

the fact that many criminals are armed doesn't mean they are stupid - using them (especially stronger caliber) is last resort since things escalate quickly afterwards and survival chances are slim

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Post by branchless »

PeterisP wrote: post #303
pjc50 wrote: post #257

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"isle of dogs. Or parts of peckham. Or West Ham." All of these places are in London . They have London postcodes, are inside the M25, and are administered by the Mayor of London.

Pretty much every major city worldwide has large suburbs that have their postcodes and are administered by the same municipal government, but they're clearly not included in the "European city center" designation. They are part of the city, but not part of the city center; and for a multimillion city the difference (and distances!) are significant.

They are all "inner" London.

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Post by wolfkill »

My wife is from a small town in Mexico where there has been a recent surge in violence and kidnappings. Her family is there and we go visit once a year or so as we can. Last time I was there there was a couple of moments that made realize I was just waiting for something terrible to happen. I worry I (as the American) am painting a target on my wife's family. Every time they call unexpectedly I fear for the worst. Right now, I'm not sure if we will go this year.

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Post by pier25 »

qume wrote: post #222
skellington wrote: post #205

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You should try living in Sinaloa, Sonora, Tamaulipas, etc.. The places you listed are all the safe states, which effectively is a different country. It's not super complex, the states near the Gulf/Yucatan are generally the safe ones.

I have pretty much the same story (but 4 years) and lived in Sonora and Nayarit. I have close friends living in Sinaloa (expats of 20 years). I now live in Guanajuato, and the only crime I've heard of first or second hand in the years in mx was a worker taking some cash which was laying around, and some gringo's stealing from each other. On the other hand I lost three friends in hurricane Odile, so I guess don't forg…

I lived in Tequisquiapan for a few years which is pretty close!

Didn't expect to find someone on HN living in El Bajío. :)

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Post by sathackr »

lliiffee wrote: post #295
briandear wrote: post #292

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The gun homicide rate in the US is 4.5. The US has roughly 110 guns per 100,000 people and 4.5 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Mexico has over 20 gun homicides per 100,000 people and about 18 guns per 100,000 people. Canada has 2 gun murders per 100,000 people and 31 guns per 100,000 people. Mexico: each gun is responsible for 1.11 murders US: each gun is responsible for .04 murders Canada: each gun is responsible…

I think you're making the argument that with more guns, countries tend to have fewer gun deaths per gun. This makes sense, casually. However, I doubt that anyone cares about the number of gun murders per gun, but rather the total number of gun murders, which is (please correct me if wrong) still correlated with more guns. Also, I see that you've focused the discussion on gun murders, which is fine, but we should note…

Does it matter what weapon the murder/suicide was committed with?

Yes, fewer guns mean fewer gun deaths -- but does it mean fewer deaths in general?

If fewer people own Honda Civics, then fewer people will die in Honda Civic accidents. But that dip in Honda Civic deaths would likely be absorbed into deaths by all other car models, such that the overall death rate remains the same.

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Post by mattmanser »

briandear wrote: post #292
mattmanser wrote: post #262

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It might not make you feel better, but Holland's gun death per 100,000 is in the 0.5's compared to the U.S.'s 10's and Mexico's 10's. You're 20 times more likely to get killed by a gun in the US or Mexico. Note that in the whole of Holland there are 50 gun homicides per year, so you were actually pretty unlucky to experience that. Your experience is exceptional and not a common occurrence, especially as I assume most…

The gun homicide rate in the US is 4.5. The US has roughly 110 guns per 100,000 people and 4.5 gun homicides per 100,000 people. Mexico has over 20 gun homicides per 100,000 people and about 18 guns per 100,000 people. Canada has 2 gun murders per 100,000 people and 31 guns per 100,000 people. Mexico: each gun is responsible for 1.11 murders US: each gun is responsible for .04 murders Canada: each gun is responsible…

10 is the death rate, 5 the homicide.

All you've done is the old trick of twisting data until it supports what you desperately want to be true because you like owning a gun. Remember, there are far more ways that the data shows you're wrong than support you.

Like climate change deniers, the only scientists that support lesser gun laws are the ones that the NRA pay for. Your congress even defunded independent research as the "wrong" result for the lobbyists kept coming out, more gun control, much less death.

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