Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
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Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
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Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#2Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA:
"While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion.
And when it comes to car sales, Tesla sold 40,697 vehicles in the U.S. last year, according to researcher IHS Markit. Ford sells that many F-Series trucks in the U.S. about every three weeks."
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#3Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA: "While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion. And when it comes…
> And when it comes to car sales, Tesla sold 40,697 vehicles in the U.S. last year, according to researcher IHS Markit. Ford sells that many F-Series trucks in the U.S. about every three weeks."
How much stationary energy storage did Ford sell last year?
"Tesla CTO: our energy storage is growing as fast as we can humanly scale it [Gallery of new Powerpack station]"
https://electrek.co/2017/01/30/tesla-cto-energy-storage-grow...
Disclaimer: Own a bunch of TSLA.
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#4Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA: "While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion. And when it comes…
Investors invest based on promise of future value. How much is Ford expected to grow?
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#5This headline reads like a race between Nicola Tesla and Henry Ford, with some Musk character unable to get a third revision done.
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#6Why doesn't this have a huge benefit to Tesla. They always seem to be short on cash, but if you are worth that much shouldn't cash be super simple to raise for Tesla?
Why push for high stock prices if it gives little benefits.
Seems like a nutty evaluation even if Tesla knocks over the established players in the future. I do in fact think that there will be an iPhone moment where established players who have not taken electric self driving cars seriousness will be eradicated like Black Berry and Nokia.
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#7Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA: "While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion. And when it comes…
Investors invest based on promise of future value. How much is Ford expected to grow?
If they can properly pivot into the electric car market, a lot.
Ford has all the infrastructure that Tesla is attempting to build now (aside from the batteries, but that is something that Ford could easily partner with another manufacture to get). They know how to mass produce cars (granted right now, ICE cars). That's not an easy feat. They have a large manufacturing and maintenance base that, frankly, Tesla can't replicate. The bet is that Tesla will be the first successful company to market, or that they will hold some patents which will prove valuable in the future. The market is not betting that they'll beat Ford or GM.
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#8Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA: "While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion. And when it comes…
it is what you concentrate on when your other numbers don't look so good.
The 3 is going to be a real test here. Not that they can make the car but that those expecting to get one at 35k actually get one and on a timely basis. Then throw in, is there any profit at that price point when factoring in all related costs?
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Investors invest based on promise of future value. How much is Ford expected to grow?
If they can properly pivot into the electric car market, a lot. Ford has all the infrastructure that Tesla is attempting to build now (aside from the batteries, but that is something that Ford could easily partner with another manufacture to get). They know how to mass produce cars (granted right now, ICE cars). That's not an easy feat. They have a large manufacturing and maintenance base that, frankly, Tesla can't r…
What infrastructure do you have in mind? Factories?
Re: Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value
#10Interesting, but market cap isn’t everything - FTA: "While Tesla’s market capitalization has swelled in size, Ford still overshadows the Palo Alto, California-based company in most other financial metrics. Over the last five years, Ford has posted net income totaling $26 billion, while Tesla has lost $2.3 billion. Last year, Ford had annual revenue of $151.8 billion compared with Tesla’s $7 billion. And when it comes…
Investors invest based on promise of future value. How much is Ford expected to grow?
that's the metanarrative that is used yes.
Realistically they more often invest on their perception of others perception of the promise of future value. How those perceptions get linked together is interesting but it is not nearly as objective as you imply.