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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#831

FLAVOR: Desktop HEADLINE: Pick an official laptop for the release. ROLE: End-user, Sysadmin, Developer I would love for Ubuntu to, with each release, pick a laptop vendor and a laptop and just Make It Work. All the components. Out of the box. As near perfect as one can get it. So when I'm in the market for a new laptop, I can just buy that one. And I'm not talking about a pro gear like the XPS. Just simple, cheap con…

Excellent idea!

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#832

OK here goes.. - FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Drop Mir & collaborate with Wayland - DESCRIPTION: I know this is a touchy subject and I'm not looking to self-righteously re-re-re-ligitage everything but... between Intel walking away, licensing concerns, Ubuntu varients not jumping onboard, and various community concerns, would you re-consider abandoning mir and joining forces with Wayland? I understand you felt…

There's no technical justification. Mir is a purely political decision. Canonical wants to exert more control over the platform. It's a totally rational position, but as you note, it seems to be failing.

To be fair, I could absolutely understand their decision. After watching the people behind Gnome3 and Wayland pretty much run amok with their ideas and their attitude towards other, dependent projects, I can't blame Canonical for not having that much faith in a possibly unstable foundation. Especially with their plans back then of building a mobile product on it. So I really can't see how Canonical are the bad guys here. It was not so much about more control but against losing it somewhere down the road.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#833

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

Bit late to the party, but I believe this was fixed in xenial/16.04 but not trusty/14.04

The relevant bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bu...

Side note, give up on a separate /boot in future, not needed 99.9% of the time.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#834
post #579

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

It's user error on your part. The proper way to upgrade a Debian/Ubuntu system is: $ apt-get dist-upgrade $ apt-get autoremove dist-upgrade installs new kernels, and autoremove will automatically remove old kernels (and keep the last 2 most recent ones.)

I like to use apt-get dist-upgrade --auto-remove, all in one step. Though for kernels they will be removed on the next invocation after reboot as the default logic keeps the last installed kernel version as well as the current one.

As for the original issue of not cleaning up the kernels, this is fixed in xenial/16.04 but not in trusty/14.04, see bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bu...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#835
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Gnome Desktop

HEADLINE: Have first class support for hibernate DESCRIPTION: There are a few problems i noticed with hibernate - During installation you don't get notified that you need a swap partition of the size of your ram if you want to hibernate (moving partitions around is a PITA) - There is no menu to set close lid to hibernate, the go to option seems to be edit /etc/systemd/logind.conf and if that doesn't work the internet has various other solutions that might work - During upgrade form 15.10 to 16.04 this broke and i never got the hibernate functionality to work again

HEADLINE: Improve battery life DESCRIPTION: The difference with windows is SIGNIFICANT. Watch the barchart at [1]

HEADLINE: Fix tracker-store and tracker-miner-fs eating CPU. DESCRIPTION: Seems that this is also a quite common issue [2], why doesn't this just work out of the box?

HEADLINE: Help support some 3rd parties get their software packaged and put in the distro. DESCRIPTION: I haven't been able to use f.lux and i think a small utility like that would enhance the overal desktop experience, so would be nice if ubuntu team supports this a little bit. (The alternative apps which should do the same didn't work for me). The point is that the OS should offer at least 1 package that just works. Now this seems to be only done with packages that are like "gnome official", where 3rd party packages sometimes fill a gap.

HEADLINE: Inventing a new desktop experience is great, but keep the options that people are used to. DESCRIPTION: I do really appreciate the thought that went into designing a new desktop experience. But please don't force it onto the user if it has not been "proven" yet. The user should have an option to go back to the old way of doing things. After some years if the % that uses the old option is very small it can be removed from the standard distribution. I think there should be more policy on this. The policy should also focus on what features people really want. For example i had to install another terminal (Terminator) just to be able to rename tabs, it was not possible or i didn't know how to do it in Gnome Terminal. It just seems that the dev team is a bit out of touch with the users need. Also this story [3]

[1] https://tweakers.net/reviews/4859/3/accuduur-bij-laptops-de-... [2] https://askubuntu.com/questions/346211/tracker-store-and-tra... [3] https://geoff.greer.fm/2016/08/26/gnome-terminal-cursor-blin...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#837

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Is there a better medium for feedback? - ROLE/AFFILIATION: C++ Software Engineer, currently in the genomics industry, in Houston, TX - DESCRIPTION: All-in-all, I've been pushed to Linux out of sheer hatred of the direction that Windows is going. I'll never install anything newer than Windows 7 ever . When Windows 7 goes End-Of-Life, I'll go 100% Linux. Apple's products are neat bu…

"Upon reflection... maybe I shouldn't be using Ubuntu."

"Is there something similar to EPEL but for Ubuntu (and other Debian derivatives)?"

"If I have to touch my mouse, the interface is probably doing something wrong."

What do you find lacking in a CentOS/EPEL install that Ubuntu gives you?

There are lots of keyboard oriented window managers around and some 'structured evaluation' (aka waste a weekend distro hopping and tweaking together with surfing the blogs to find someone who does the same kind of work as you do) will probably allow you to find something you like.

(Personally, I find KDE with a few adjustments fine for most things and Gnome Shell seemed fairly intuitive after a year on dwm).

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#838

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Fix hibernation with entire hd LUKS encryption - DESCRIPTION: I know this is an issue on a grander scale, but as we all know hibernation isn't possible when you have your whole disk encrypted. If this can be fixed that would be great, or at least remove the option to hibernate then. - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Senior Developer at Clevertech

"as we all know hibernation isn't possible when you have your whole disk encrypted" -- this should be stated during the installation procedure of ubuntu

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#839
post #205

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Mouse Button Remapping - DESCRIPTION: I'm a disabled user and "left-click" with my thumb. At the moment, there's no visual way to do that in Ubuntu's settings. I have to run something like `xinput set-button-map "Evoluent VerticalMouse 4" 0 3 0 4 5 6 7 0 2 1 2` whenever I login, or connect my mouse, or if the phases of the moon changes. Please - all I want is a GUI where I can say…

> I have to run something like `xinput set-button-map "Evoluent VerticalMouse 4" 0 3 0 4 5 6 7 0 2 1 2` whenever I login Can you not put this in your .bashrc or something?

shrug Maybe. I want to use my computer, not constantly fiddle with it.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#840
post #43

My biggest wish is Ubuntu (and Debian) switching from systemd to any other init system. I know that won't happen but I was asked and that's the only thing I want, whenever you like it or not.

also check https://www.devuan.org we are very close to release Jessie stable, backed by a vibrant community http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan For those preferring an introductory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo

Hasn't Devuan be "close" to a stable release for 2.5 years or so now?
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