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Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by TheCoelacanth » Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 6:55 PM UTC

solidr53 wrote: post #115

Nav_Panel wrote: post #82

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I still think "eat less" is bad advice, because just "eating less" chips/soda/garbage is pretty difficult. I've tried. It requires an extreme and inhuman amount of willpower. Our natural drive is to vacuum up all the easy energy in front of us. "Eat better" is probably better/more useful vague advice. You can eat a whole lot of salad/veggies and it wont end up being that many calories (so, in this case, you're eating…

He never stated "eat less volume of food", so I take it he ment the general term "calories of food". How you do it doesn't matter. (eat more volumetric food or stop drinking soda, doesn't matter)

Except that it does matter how you do it. There is pretty much no human alive who has the willpower to eat exactly their daily caloric requirement in chips and soda and then stop every day.

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by andy_ppp » Thu, Mar 30, 2017, 9:03 PM UTC

omgwtfutoo wrote: post #138

andy_ppp wrote: post #29

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"When people eat a diet that is high in calories and high in fructose, the liver gets overloaded and starts turning the fructose into fat. Lustig and other scientists believe that excess fructose consumption may be a key driver of many of the most serious diseases of today. These include obesity, type II diabetes, heart disease and even cancer." https://authoritynutrition.com/why-is-fructose-bad-for-you/

Lustig is a paid shill of the meat and dairy industries. In reality, it's the animal products most strongly linked to disease, not sugar. See many, many studies about this on http://nutritionfacts.org

Thanks I'll check it out!

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by sn9 » Sat, Apr 01, 2017, 12:19 AM UTC

kough wrote: post #54

Aron wrote: post #40

My intuition is that there is a small delta in impact between a 'reasonable' diet and a 'perfect' diet, and so playing in that margin is pointless. But I've always felt it notable that you can consume a whole day's worth of calories in about 5 minutes with a super happy value meal, and then be hungry again a few hours later. I'd say avoid doing that.

Actually, it's pretty hard to eat a whole day's worth of calories in a single meal. I know this because I've tried to, regularly, as part of a longer attempt to gain weight. If you're ordering at McDonald's, your best calorie/dollar ratio [edit: s/your best/my preferred] is the ~800 calorie double quarter pounder with cheese for ~6 dollars. My daily caloric requirements are estimated at 3000 calories based on my age…

Given the obesity rates in the US, I think you'll find that, for the average person, this is easier than it is for you.