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Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by olegious »

bennettfeely wrote: post #121
mhermher wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you hold WaPo, NYT, CNN to those same standards? Because that is mainly what American "MSM" does, selectively publish information which bebefits the agenda of American foreign policy interests. It's fair if you align yourself with American foreign policy interests, I do too, but to single out other publications that don't follow that agenda is just a case of having self interested double standards. All of the crit…

Every one of those news outlets publishes multiple stories criticizing the current leader of the United States and the United States' foreign policy agenda. This happens nearly every hour of the day.

Yes, but they don't question or criticize our foreign policy which is very destructive to the long term interests of this country.

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by 27182818284 »

oliv__ wrote: post #59

The WARBLE languages are pretty telling of which actors this software is intended to target: * Arabic * Chinese * Russian * Korean * Farsi Interesting...

It would only be interesting to see something like French show up. The CIA openly asks for primarily Chinese and Arabic speakers on their website to apply for jobs...

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by strathmeyer »

arca_vorago wrote: post #130

Look at all the people complaining that wikileaks is anti-western and/or foriegn supported/agents with no proof of this whatsoever. If anything wikileaks has shown a superior journalistic record in publishing whatever comes across their desk, so I don't see people criticising wikileaks on this the weakest of points as anything but intellectually dishonest at best.

You're going to find Hackers have a higher standard for truth.

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by k-mcgrady »

azinman2 wrote: post #21

I've really turned on Wikileaks. Itd be one thing if all the major powers had equivalent leaks publishing, but focusing on the US basically serves Chinese and Russian interests far more than it does the citizens of the US. String obfuscation isn't stemming from some corrupt deal that needs sunlight... this is just doing a disservice to their original mission.

So what's the solution? Stop publishing until they've caught up on Russian and Chinese leaks? Why just Russia and China? Should each country get a leak until we get back to the start of the cycle again? Why should Wikileaks care who's interests any leaks serve?

They should leak interesting material they are given - that's their purpose.

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by dredmorbius »

takeda wrote: post #26
equalunique wrote: post #5

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Seems FSB has better security than CIA. 90% of intelligence community cyber security spending is on offensive projects, so this revelation should not be too surprising. ( http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-defense-idUSKBN1... )

There's suspicion that Assange no longer has control over Wiki Leaks.

Citation requested.

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by dredmorbius »

equalunique wrote: post #17
sandworm101 wrote: post #13

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And FSB's attack surface is less than 1% of CIA's. Much fsb work is farmed out to contractors, the offensive stuff that CIA keeps in house. CIA people chat via email, messaging and by voice. FSB people chat in person. That's why russian hackers are always traveling while CIA hackers keep having thier stuff leaked.

Great points. I don't know many details of how they operate. Someone told me they still rely on paper-based methods in order to avoid some types of electronic surveillance. In theory, 50% offense and 50% defense should be the only budget for a sane operation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14007213

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Post by azrazalea »

cavanasm wrote: post #119
bingomad123 wrote: post #106

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I totally support Wikileaks. Both China and Russia are oppressive regimes. They don't pretend to be "land of free" while oppressing their people. USA does! Secondly there is element of "outcome". Exposing US government has clear benefit of keeping people informed and hence help them make better voting decisions. Telling Chinese people that their government is systematically harvesting organs of Tibetian people has no…

I'm a young person with other young people friends. One such friend grew up in Shanghai. He had never heard of the Tiananmen Square student protests (and the resulting military intervention) until he came to the US for college and someone asked him about it. Anecdotally, it seems China does a very, very, good job of controlling information through their extensive government controls. Telling Chinese people about some…

Only if you could tell them though. As you said, China is good at controlling information.

I think the point is good overall.

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Post by lettergram »

olegious wrote: post #151
bennettfeely wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every one of those news outlets publishes multiple stories criticizing the current leader of the United States and the United States' foreign policy agenda. This happens nearly every hour of the day.

Yes, but they don't question or criticize our foreign policy which is very destructive to the long term interests of this country.

Pretty much every organization is criticizing our foreign policy at the moment.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+foreign+policy&t=fpas&iax=1&...

Re: Wikileaks releases CIA's Marble: Malware obfuscation tools

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Post by azernik »

freeflight wrote: post #78
ajross wrote: post #66

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So "egregious" behavior extends only to digital surveillance? OK, fine. Surely the US is the worst at that, I think that's a fair assessment. I thought you were talking about seemingly-Wikileak relevant things like secret police stuff, control over national media, poisoning of political enemies, assassinations... Y'know. Boring stuff. Not "egregious" I guess.

>like secret police stuff, control over national media, poisoning of political enemies, assassinations How about "secret police stuff" like the illegal abductions of people to put them into torture "black sites" all over the world? [0] Massive control over global media trough lobbying and propaganda instruments? [1] A long history of successful, and not so successful assassination attempts aimed at the "ideological o…

Compared to:

0. People straight up disappeared in Syria, people arrested and locked up for political reasons in Russia - DOMESTIC stuff.

1. (Leaving aside that sock-puppet commenters are not the same as "massive control over global media".) The use on a massive scale of paid trolls by Russia, and the outright censorship of mass media outlets in countries from Russia and China to US allies like Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

2. Assassinations of journalists in Russia, and of some particularly high-value opposition targets abroad.

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