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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Flavor: Desktop Headline: A real commitment to accessibility for disabled users

About ten years ago, I was a happy Ubuntu user. At that time, it stuck fairly close to the GNOME stack, which is good for me as a blind user since GNOME is reasonably accessible and has a small but dedicated group of folks working on it.

Then Canonical significantly abandoned GNOME for Unity. While Canonical advanced Unity, wrote its own mobile-optimized interface, decided not to use Wayland in favor of its own home-grown solution, it to the best of my knowledge assigned one (one!) staffer to work on the accessibility story for all the greenfield stuff it was building. Sure, you could run GNOME in Ubuntu if you wanted to be a version or two behind. Also, sometimes you'd get something like GNOME 3.10 accessibility components shipped with GNOME 3.8, which worked 95% of the time, but when it failed it failed hard. I wish I could remember specifics, but at the time I was busy feeling like Canonical had basically thrown its non-able-bodied users aside. The only Canonical accessibility staffer I knew of was claiming that the goal was to only make Ubuntu LTS releases definitely accessible but no commitments for any in between. That completely disregards how the accessibility stack itself sees improvements, and sometimes things become more accessible by virtue of nothing more than using a newer at-spi/atk. Sometimes I upgrade GNOME not for the New Shiny(TM), but because GNOME 3.next brings accessibility improvements that will make existing apps more stable and usable. But you can't always just ship a newer atk with a GNOME release a year and a half behind, so telling me I'll only get accessibility fixes in 2-year increments when access tech changes about as quickly as any other is, well, short-sighted.

I'd really like to see Ubuntu make more of a commitment to accessibility in this or some upcoming (but near) cycle. If you can build your own custom desktop environment and display manager, then surely Canonical can assign more than a single person or two to improve the accessibility of all that new tech. I remember Shuttleworth writing a blog post near the end of 2012, claiming that Ubuntu would leave no one behind, and that it would be relevant to all types of computing. As a blind developer, I tried to constructively comment that not making accessibility a priority more than once every two years both left me behind and made Ubuntu less relevant to me. My comment vanished into the moderation queue and was never published. Maybe it wasn't the congratulatory pat on the back folks were hoping for in that post. Today I'm on Fedora and, while it isn't perfect, the fact that it stays close to GNOME makes it significantly better for me. All your new tech can be just as accessible, but it won't happen if you make it a single person's job to do that work. And, if you can't make it accessible because of limited resources, then you are leaving people behind and might want to scale back your efforts in other areas to compensate.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#622

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: More stable dock/undock and sleep/wake handling. - DESCRIPTION: I've noticed that my system often hangs unrecoverably with a blank screen during dock/undock and sleep/wake events. I've learned, though, that I can reduce the likelihood of having problems by trying to minimize the number of state changes that the system has to handle at once. For example, if I'm leaving the house wi…

It's kind of crazy how long this has been a problem and across many different hardware configs. Sleep doesn't work on my desktop or on a windows laptop with standard intel everything.

Yeah, I've had intermittent suspend/resume issues with nearly every laptop I've tried linux on.

My current xps 13 is the only one I've ever used where it works 100% reliably.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#623
post #113

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Core - HEADLINE: zfs setup in installer. - DESCRIPTION: I would love to see an easy way to install the system with zfs. Current way is to use the wiki by zfsonlinux. And lets say it that way: It is not easy for beginners...

what is your use case?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#624
FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADLINE: change behavior of notification bubble on unity

DESCRIPTION: notification system on unity very poor, can't close it, can't copy of content, when mouse over on it it's blurred so can't read or see whats behind it (and i dont understant why)

ROLE: Developer who use many tools when working -------

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #620

- less resource intensive standard DE, though I default to using i3 - if the disk creator could also create non-ubuntu isos. For me it would only create Ubuntu disks. Also if I try unetbootin it usually doesn't work. I'd either save/have a Linux Mint just for this purpose or use Rufus/YUMI in Windows. I'm pretty happy with Ubuntu. Mostly it's great at having drivers. Recently though I haven't been able to install LAM…

> if the disk creator could also create non-ubuntu isos. For me it would only create Ubuntu disks. Also if I try unetbootin it usually doesn't work. I'd either save/have a Linux Mint just for this purpose or use Rufus/YUMI in Windows.

gnome-multiwriter works for just about every iso I've tried it with. It's in the repos for most distros I've used

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#627

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: More stable dock/undock and sleep/wake handling. - DESCRIPTION: I've noticed that my system often hangs unrecoverably with a blank screen during dock/undock and sleep/wake events. I've learned, though, that I can reduce the likelihood of having problems by trying to minimize the number of state changes that the system has to handle at once. For example, if I'm leaving the house wi…

This is actually one of the main reasons I am thinking of switching to a Mac. It's really hard to live with all these 'black-screen-after-lock' moments. If that could work as it does in MacOS/Windows, I'd probably never switch.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #557

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Built-in support for installing up-to-date packages - DESCRIPTION: Currently, `apt install [package]` on LTS Ubuntu will install a package that is up to 24 months out of date (or more if you're not on the latest LTS). Literally one month ago, using the latest version of Windows 10, I installed Ubuntu for Windows (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` insta…

This is the exact problem snaps are supposed to solve. Check out Snapcraft.io

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop: 1. HEADLINE: A way to have different scaling for external monitors hooked up to my HiDPI laptop. Currently I need can only set a single scaling factor, so I need to ajust my laptop screen resolution to match scaling of the external monitor. If that's not possible, a way to automatically set resolution and scale for both screens once you hook one up would already save me a lot of manual switc…

User: I want hi-res apps! Dev: Sure, here you go. User: But why is it so small on my new shiny tablet high density screen? Dev: (SHit it worked okay for me) Okay now it detects the density and scale.. User: But when I move the window to my old good lcd screen it becomes way too big! Dev: Okay let's see if I can dynamically adapt to a new monitor density, it's just one scale factor. User: But when I put it on my big t…

The distance between of the third and fourth formulations of the problem is very small. Once apps can be dynamically redrawn with a scale factor, simply make the scale factor customizable.
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