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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by bubblethink »

anuragsoni wrote: post #183
bubblethink wrote: post #63

FLAVOUR: All HEADLINE: Convenient snapshot & rollback by default DESCRIPTION: Possibly implemented as snapper + lvm thin provisioning or btrfs. Other distros already have this, but it is far from user friendly.

Just curious, what is missing from the implementations in the other distros you tried? I switched from Ubuntu to openSUSE last year and so far that's the only distribution where i've used snapper + lvm. I think having an implementation like theirs is pretty user friendly (just a personal opinion) or at least a good start. It gives an option to use snapper + btrfs at install time + option to boot into a read only snap…

I haven't used SUSE, but I've used snapper with lvm thin provisioning on RHEL. It works, but it still needs manual fiddling with config files. There are a couple of other issues with lvm thin on its own. The metadata size isn't chosen well by default from what I remember. It can easily get full. There is also manual trimming required on deletes (can be done in a cron job). lvm-raid isn't directly offered with thin provisioning in Anaconda. It would still do mdadm, and run lvm-thin on top of it. Overall, the experience is not great.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by blauditore »

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Refresh (or replace) built-in themes

- DESCRIPTION: I'm well aware that many hard-core users don't care that much about visual aesthetics of the user interface, but I think this makes up a lot of the impression first-time users have of Ubuntu. While solid and generally fine, the built-in themes look could use some overhaul, or replacement. One of the first things I do when setting up a new instance is downloading and installing third-party themes and icon sets. It's funny how some people are surprised "how good Linux can look", because many still have the impression of it being a hacky, patchy, hard-to-use nerd OS.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Software developer, web-related full-stack, Ubuntu user by choice (amongst MacOS evangelists)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by vetinari »

pas wrote: post #202
faragon wrote: post #118

Loving Ubuntu myself, I would like a system not requiring command line stuff for fixing things, so everyone could use and maintain it, not just experts (e.g. a "fix my computer" button that in worst case it could reinstall everything but the home folders).

CoreOS-like A/B system partitions would be a very useful addition to Ubuntu.

Or at least snapshoting and then booting to last good snapshot.

Both solutions (a/b partition and snapshost) would require separate partition or subvolume for /home.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by bubblethink »

simosx wrote: post #319
bubblethink wrote: post #63

FLAVOUR: All HEADLINE: Convenient snapshot & rollback by default DESCRIPTION: Possibly implemented as snapper + lvm thin provisioning or btrfs. Other distros already have this, but it is far from user friendly.

It would make sense as soon as the default filesystem becomes btrfs or ZFS. As it is now, it would need to be a feature that only appears if it finds that you have the proper filesystem.

Not necessary. Look at lvm-thin + snapper.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

cromulen wrote: post #138
s_kilk wrote: post #8

- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: More stable and polished desktop - DESCRIPTION: This one is hard to pin down, but I'd like to see more general polish and stability in the Unity desktop. One example would be around multi-monitor support, it's pretty good, but a bit funky in some places. For example, if I have a monitor plugged in and I let the laptop screen lock come on, I can sit there and watch while both displays cyc…

-FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop -HEADLINE: Network manager that works -DESCRIPTION: The single thing that would make Ubuntu seem 10x more polished than it now is the horrible state of the network manager. The little wifi bar in the top right. Sometimes, randomly, after dropping a wifi connection, or going to sleep and waking it will: 1) Stop listing SSIDs except the one I've already configured and want to connect to. (But I…

Agreed. There are new Network Manager bugs in just about every Ubuntu release.

At one point the NM task bar applet was simply gone.

Then it stopped managing wired connections breaking networking entirely for me.

Now the network no longer works after disconnecting from a VPN, which is an improvement compared to the previous situation where it often showed the VPN as active when it wasn't.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by tutuca »

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Go back to colaboration with gnome-project

- DESCRIPTION: The fragmentation in the linux desktop is getting retarded, both effort (GNOME and Unity) are crippled by the lack of colaboration in the toolkits and applications. This was a marvel up until ubuntu 10.10 which was the last linux that anyone would need. I just miss the good old days.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Ubuntu enthusiast since 6.04.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

danudey wrote: post #573

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Simpler install customization and actual canonical (lol) guides for how to do certain tasks - DESCRIPTION: Customizing/automating install images is a pain. I've spent years working on making the debian/Ubuntu installer do just the things it was designed to do (e.g. preseeding) and it still feels like I have to cobble together information from ten different resources and read throug…

Yes, this. Preseed is terribly documented and sometimes so buggy I feel like I'm the only one using it.
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