When Will AWS Move Up the Stack to Real Applications?

Post by qeternity » Fri, Mar 31, 2017, 5:36 PM UTC

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AWS was already low risk, since they started with idle platform capacity that they needed to have for holiday shopping bursts. You're proving my point. They go for very asymmetric return profiles. Selling books online is exactly the same. Using expensive retail space to sell goods that have few good substitutes between them is a really dumb proposition. The market for books was well established, so that wasn't risky.…

"Real applications" (someone named off CMS, CRM, VoIP, groupware, helpdesk, and callcenter software above) hardly seem like moonshots.

The implication from OP is that those aren't "real applications". They are merely following in AWS footsteps ("hey, we had to build this anyway...maybe there's a 3rd party market for it").

Post by user5994461 » Sat, Apr 01, 2017, 1:26 PM UTC

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> Not at all. Most customers couldn't care less about money. you're out of your mind. customers at the high end care MORE about money, not less. the company spending $1 million/month on AWS is desperately looking for ways out. DESPERATELY. their entire business is being held hostage by amazon. jeff bezos has them by the balls and is squeezing harder and harder by the day. they have hired consultants to do the analysi…

I agree. This is definitely the impression I've gotten from people I've talked to. In an ideal world, how would they solve this? Is it to move back to self-hosted infrastructure? Isn't that the same problem; they're just hostage to their own employees and capex instead of Amazon?

In the real world, you sell a product that is profitable enough to cover the costs.

Do you think a company that sells t-shirt for less than the fabric cost will live long? Nope.

Do you think a company can get equivalent service to AWS for much less money? Nope.

Well, actually, yes, there is google cloud that's half the price. https://thehftguy.com/2016/11/18/google-cloud-is-50-cheaper-...

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