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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by bhollan »

karlmdavis wrote: post #60

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

+1. This is one of my major annoyances w/ Ubuntu. Been using it 3 years now and this seems like a fundamental issue that should be fixed.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by [deleted] »

researcher11 wrote: post #180

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Dump Mir!!!!! DESCRIPTION: I know Canonical has put a lot of effort into Mir and at this stage it is probably "too big to fail". But for various reasons my bet is that it will fail. I think this is Canonical repeating Microsoft's Metro mistake. I have a $12K dollar desktop and I don't want an OS optimized for phones !!! I will be able to avoid it but I would rather your engineering ef…

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by rxlim »

noja wrote: post #77
rxlim wrote: post #43

My biggest wish is Ubuntu (and Debian) switching from systemd to any other init system. I know that won't happen but I was asked and that's the only thing I want, whenever you like it or not.

Why? You need to develop your answer.

I want software to be simple, well-engineered and lightweight. In my opinion systemd is the exact opposite of that. I think this page explains it well: http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd

In practice I have had many extremely frustrating problems with systemd including systems that suddenly became unbootable.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

karlmdavis wrote: post #60

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

I don't use Ubuntu, but in Fedora it keeps only a handful of old kernels (i.e. one or two back) and deletes the rest. I guess Ubuntu just holds onto every kernel you've ever had since the beginning of time?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by finchisko »

Entangled wrote: post #81

* FLAVOR: Desktop * HEADLINE: Swift for desktop apps * DESCRIPTION: Swift frameworks for Cocoa controls that allow development of desktop apps in a beautiful and consistent manner. And while we're at it, give also Google a hand on porting Kotlin apps for the desktop too. There is nothing better for a platform than allowing developers to build modern and beautiful apps to push the platform even further.

I probably understand what do you mean. And would like to see one programming language I can use for writing GUI apps on all major platforms, but I guess this would be out of scope what Ubuntu guys can deliver.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by tinco »

_cmmn wrote: post #167

- FLAVOR: [Ubuntu Desktop] - HEADLINE: Join Wayland - DESCRIPTION: Instead of reinventing the wheel with Unity8/Mir, please join Wayland development and maybe join forces with Linux Mint and switch from Unity to Cinnamon or MATE, with Flatpak supports for desktop apps.

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Drop Xorg

- DESCRIPTION: I don't care whether it's Wayland or MIR, just for the love of god commit to it and end the pile of shit Linux on the desktop has been chained to for over 20 years. I don't know what went wrong, that you went from "we'll do it this release" to not doing anything for 2 years, and it hurt the entire community.

Disregard the petty squabblers who most likely haven't read a line of either the Wayland or Mir source code. Just come up with a solution that's well engineered and wins backing from NVidia, Intel and AMD. (I assume you already had that, because if not, why announce Mir at all?)

Also, please don't forget about the Desktop, you're definitely winning a lot of ground amongst developers. Container technology is making Ubuntu the preferred OS for many developers, something which both macOS and Windows don't have first class support for. This while Apple is chasing off macOS developers with expensive and less powerful hardware. Microsoft is coming back with a vengeance though, their new focus and work on things like a proper terminal and better linux subsystem makes them an option again in the eyes of some of my colleagues who before never even considered running Windows for their development environments.

If you guys stay on point, you will conquer the developers market the way Apple did in the late 00's. Which I think was critical for Apple's mobile ecosystem as well.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by researcher11 »

NoGravitas wrote: post #200
researcher11 wrote: post #180

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Dump Mir!!!!! DESCRIPTION: I know Canonical has put a lot of effort into Mir and at this stage it is probably "too big to fail". But for various reasons my bet is that it will fail. I think this is Canonical repeating Microsoft's Metro mistake. I have a $12K dollar desktop and I don't want an OS optimized for phones !!! I will be able to avoid it but I would rather your engineering ef…

They really ought to be using Wayland. There are technical reasons for Mir vs X11, but not really any for Mir vs. Wayland other than NIH.

I think most people are unaware of Mir vs Wayland and the issues that Ubuntu using Mir will cause. I only know about it because I was thinking about building a tiling window manager (because I'm weird like that).

I think there is a good chance that Mir will be technically inferior to Wayland and a better chance that Ubuntu UI designers will reinvent the user experience from a phone perspective.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by r3bl »

richsu-ca wrote: post #141

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Child friendly (ad blocker, content filter) DESCRIPTION: For my son's first computer, I picked Lubuntu and spent days making it "internet ready". I installed Dansguardian + Privoxy, then added uBlock Origin to Chrome, then added OpenDNS to my home router. It was a lot of searching online and trial & error but worth it. From time to time, I check websites he visited and what got blocke…

elementary OS designed parental control, but in a bit of an opposite way as you've suggested. An administrator can create a new standard account, and restrict its access to the computer. For example, the standard user can log in between 5 PM and 10 PM, can have access to some of the applications restricted (as in, he can't run them) and he can be banned from accessing certain websites (blacklist-only options at the moment).

Not really what you're looking for, but built exactly in a way you want it: available out-of-the-box, tucked into system settings, there in case you need it. Could be of some inspiration to Ubuntu guys.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by echelon »

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Proper virtual desktop / spaces for multiple monitors (i.e. independent, per-monitor spaces)

- DESCRIPTION: Right now it isn't possible to switch workspaces on two or more monitors independently. This is possible on Mac, and is a huge productivity boost. Coming home from work to use my personal Ubuntu machine always feels like a step backwards for this reason alone.

I want to be able to have one monitor for my IDE, and one monitor for terminal /vim, browser instances, music, etc. I like to keep different virtual desktops "scoped" to different things--eg. "documentation and code" vs "personal email". When I switch between these on one monitor, it also switches the space on the other monitor. They should be entirely independent of one another.

If I'm looking at something on my left monitor, but want to look at something different on my right monitor, why make me switch both of them away? The lack of ability to independently control the desktops on each monitor makes me super sad. :(

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