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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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* FLAVOR: Desktop

* HEADLINE: Swift for desktop apps

* DESCRIPTION: Swift frameworks for Cocoa controls that allow development of desktop apps in a beautiful and consistent manner.

And while we're at it, give also Google a hand on porting Kotlin apps for the desktop too. There is nothing better for a platform than allowing developers to build modern and beautiful apps to push the platform even further.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Desktop

- HEADLINE: improve VPN support

- DESCRIPTION: the WLAN UI supports some OpenVPN options, but not all, and fails silently on importing non-compatible config files. This is very confusing for new Desktop users.

- FLAVOR: Desktop

- HEADLINE: multi-column list view in nautilus

- DESCRIPTION: This view has been explicitly dropped (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/7081...) but is very useful for quickly navigating large directories. Alternatively, replace Nautilus with a file manager that can do this (like Nemo). This is one area where the Windows file manager is still much better.

- FLAVOR: Desktop

- HEADLINE: polish file dialogs (multi-column-list view)

- DESCRIPTION: the default file-open and file-save dialogs lack many simple features that can save a lot of time. For example, in the file-open dialog there is no multi-column view (see above), you cannot rename files, you cannot create files/folders, you cannot access the normal context menu. All this requires separately opening a file manager, which also lacks a few productivity features (see above).

- FLAVOR: Desktop

- HEADLINE: polish hotkeys and general window handling on multi-monitor setups

- DESCRIPTION: I needed a bunch of compiz plugins to make this work in a halfway decent way in a 2-monitor setup, and I dread the day I will have to re-shuffle this for a 3-monitor setup etc. Make it easy to move a window 1) from one monitor to the other, 2) resize and move to one of the corners/sides, 3) maximize it. Also, applications in full-screen mode on one of the monitors confuse my compiz-based setup (for example, a full-screen Chrome window on one monitor will introduce numerous UI issues).

Still, it's a great system and very nice to use overall.

Thanks for gathering feedback. That's the first step ;-) Keep up the good work!

Edit: language

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#83

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Python 3 as default - DESCRIPTION: In lieu of a description, I'll just link to this: https://pythonclock.org - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Developer, sys admin

Opposing view: This would make me stay on 16.04 LTS for a long long time.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#84
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FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server HEADLINE: Smaller Docker Images DESCRIPTION: An official, skinnied down, Ubuntu image for docker and AWS AMIs would be nice. I have some clients that want to maintain some uniformity across host and guest, so they aren't interested in Alpine or Busybox images. But the Ubuntu image is ~200MB or so, where OpenSuse is about half that. I understand Canonical doesn't build those images, but you would…

afaik, canonical does build those images. See here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#85

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Python 3 as default - DESCRIPTION: In lieu of a description, I'll just link to this: https://pythonclock.org - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Developer, sys admin

I agree, I usually update defaults so that python => python3. However, PEP has some guidance on how this should be handled[1].

I imagine Ubuntu (Debian, et al) is following these guidelines. It would be cool to have a push for those who still depend not only on Python2 but on `/usr/bin/python` being py2 to update their app - or at least update their packaging :)

[1]: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora with Gnome shell on Wayland already handles both 1 and 2, although power managements is about the same as Ubuntu and Wayland comes with its own set of issues.

really, there's a native multitouch support for touchpads? do you have more info about that?

Two-finger scrolling works really well on Fedora with Wayland, in fact at some point it appears to have become default behavior (at least on my machine running the latest version).

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#87
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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…

+1 then I can kill my custom "remove oldest kernels, except the running one, and leave at least two other kernels" script.

Yes, I had this same problem when I was on Xubuntu. Fedora and CentOS(and I'm assuming many other distros) seem to handle kernel updates just fine without forcing me to manually clean out old images from /boot periodically (was always too lazy to write a script).

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#88
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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: text antialiasing options - DESCRIPTION: I'm not a Linux guy, but when I've tried it I'm always annoyed at how ugly text looks compared to macOS. It would be great if we could pick different text renderers or have a new one with an easy GUI for adjusting parameters.

Hasn't GNOME has something similar for years? A whole bunch of different text aliasing examples, you pick the one that looks right?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#89
post #53

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Automated night mode so I can sleep well after work - DESCRIPTION: Reducing the amount of blue light during the night is proven to help people finding sleep after having used their computer at night. So during the night, the desktop automatedly reduce the amount of blue light emitted on the screen by shifting the color balance. - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Dev/Machine learner

This is a feature I'd really like as well, a blue light filter is a must for me on any device with a screen. I've always had problems with f.lux to behave correctly on Linux, so having one built into the OS (as an option of course) would be great.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#90
post #78

- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: Easy Dock/Launcher Customization - DESCRIPTION: The user should be able to 1) drag any executable to the dock to make a new launcher 2) Right click any launcher to be able to choose a dialog to customize command line arguments, initial working directory, and icon. The user should not have to edit a desktop item file or install or know about Alacarte. Windows got this one right. - ROLE/AF…

I still can't believe the effort this takes on Ubuntu. Windows has done this right for how many years?
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