Trump on Feb. 15 — after Flynn was fired — saying Flynn's a "wonderful man [who'] been treated very, very unfairly by the media"
Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
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Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#12Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
The investigation is about whether or not there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#13Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
I think the level of infighting in the US and Europe now is different from anything I've seen over the last couple of decades. The democratization of media is a net benefit but it helped bring about a world's worth of people seeking out news that matches their world view. It's made it very easy to spawn animus and make everything into an "us vs them" issue.
I think Russia is overtly and covertly involved in an effort to weaken western unions. And it seems like it's been a remarkably successful campaign.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#14Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
You're being down-voted, in part, because you're asking a lot of questions that can easily be solved by web searches.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#15As of now, it looks like nobody has taken his offer of immunity for testimony. What are the implications of this? The commentators on other sites seem to imply this means investigators already know something big.
> The commentators on other sites seem to imply this means investigators already know something big.
They probably do, but if they're doing a good job w/the investigation, they are looking for more evidence to corroborate testimony like Flynn's.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#16https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in...
For those who don't like paywalls, the text: https://pastebin.com/PtqWwd3w
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#17Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
> What exactly are we investigating? Collusion between Trump/team and Russia. It's one thing for Russia to mess with an election, it's a vastly different thing if the campaign coordinated with them to do it.
If "messed with" the election just means misleading propaganda, then is it really an issue if they coordinated with them? How is it any different than hiring a PR firm based in another country?
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#18Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
Uh, no. Aside from the fact that collusion between a foreign government and a presidential campaign would be extremely problematic that's not the major issue.
The major allegation on the table right now is that the Russian government offered Trump a sizeable share of Rosneft, the Russian national petrochemical corporation, in exchange for dropping the sanctions against Russia due to the conflict in Ukraine, and both parties followed through with the deal. The sanctions were relaxed by the Trump administration within the first month of coming into office while a stake in Rosneft has been sold to an anonymous buyer behind a cayman islands holding company.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#19Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
> If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible)
The vast surveillance apparatus of the deep state have crawled everything they have on Donald Trump and all they could come up with was some locker room banter from 11 years ago. The man is straight as an arrow and has been for decades.
> Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia was involved in releasing emails from the DNC? Emails which revealed terrible, immature, anti-democratic conduct? The "Russia hacked the election" narrative doesn't include, AFAIK, accusations that they stuffed ballot boxes or anything, right?
Stop asking questions. RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION! That's all you need to know. Quite how they subverted the voting apparatus of nearly 3000 counties is not a question you need to ask right now.
Re: Ex-Trump adviser Flynn seeks immunity for testimony in Russia probe: WSJ
#20Listen, I know it's a big deal when the POTUS lies. But aren't we used to it by now? If Trump somehow manages not to be a criminal and a crook (which seems downright impossible), it will be highly unusual for the recent history of his office. Now: other than bluster, what is there actually about this "Russia" probe? What exactly are we investigating? Whether Russia was involved in "fake news" stories? Whether Russia…
You're being down-voted, in part, because you're asking a lot of questions that can easily be solved by web searches.
I've read a lot about this story; I'm not sure what I'm missing. If I'm a web search away, care to give me a LMGTFY?